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40 minutes ago, Dunn said:

I remember after Oher was released for his nagging concussion issues he went on a Twitter rant about the excessive use and push of drugs to 'get better' for himself and how it hurt him even worse mentally.  This could be telling as well...

Good point I forgot about that.

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22 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

The same thing happened when the feds moved on Vick.  It changed from a "distraction" to "oh poo" overnight.

Feds have already asked 10+ lawyers/judges local&big-time how they are looking with the mountain of evidence. Most times they have YEARS of it, along with people on the inside. They even pick out the weakest ones or ones with the most to lose(kids, $$$, etc etc), have 50 charges waiting, grab them up and "arrest" them. Then the screwing starts,- "we can make ALLLLlll of this go away, if you do this simple task ______ " for us.......o and sign these papers as well......

They dont make any mistakes and you are DONE if they are busting down doors. They have spent millions and unless you have better lawyers(LOLOL)/beyond lucky(why the arrest then??) or have some real proof that was over-looked(big doubt). They have you dead to rights. 

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4 hours ago, pepaw said:

Okay with that Gano post I really wanna know. 

 

The three biggest offenses to me were:

  • Why was Davis allowed to run without the brace when his ACL tear took place
  • Why did they allow Beason to play in the home opener of 2011?
  • Why did Cam's shoulder completely deteriorate after it seemed to be recovering after the 2017 season?

The answer to #3 is TJ Watt. Cam’s shoulder was fine in 2018 until Watt destroyed it with his helmet. His arm wasn’t right after that and got worse through the season.

Still think that should have been looked into more. They basically lied for 6 games saying his shoulder was fine, then when Cam was like “no it wasn’t “ they were like “gasp, we didn’t know”.

Still say we would have made the playoffs that year if we started Allen or Heineke sooner. Would have at least won the Saints game.

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2 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

The answer to #3 is TJ Watt. Cam’s shoulder was fine in 2018 until Watt destroyed it with his helmet. His arm wasn’t right after that and got worse through the season.

Still think that should have been looked into more. They basically lied for 6 games saying his shoulder was fine, then when Cam was like “no it wasn’t “ they were like “gasp, we didn’t know”.

Still say we would have made the playoffs that year if we started Allen or Heineke sooner. Would have at least won the Saints game.

In the Amazon series you can hear him complaining about the pain before the Steelers blowout game and the lack of zip was noticeable early in the year.  Which leads me to wonder, were they not assertive or incompetent with him going into the offseason after 2017 when he was throwing darts at the end of the season. 

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Everyone claiming roids and bringing up 2003. That was a SC doctor who gave roids to the OL/team. One player visited him, told him what was wrong, the SC doc gave him roids. Snowball effect happened, just like any other locker-room. If a player is in great shape& passing test while taking supplement YXgator blood, before long everyone else is....

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41 minutes ago, pepaw said:

In the Amazon series you can hear him complaining about the pain before the Steelers blowout game and the lack of zip was noticeable early in the year.  Which leads me to wonder, were they not assertive or incompetent with him going into the offseason after 2017 when he was throwing darts at the end of the season. 

And remember when he had to be pulled before halftime of the Ravens game for a hail mary to put in Heinecke(didn't end up being a hail mary cuz Olsen got open on the sideline to get into FG range, but point stands)? Yeah that was before the Steelers game. This stupid ass TJ Watt narrative needs to die. His shoulder was clearly messed up prior to it.

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2 hours ago, Bartin said:

And remember when he had to be pulled before halftime of the Ravens game for a hail mary to put in Heinecke(didn't end up being a hail mary cuz Olsen got open on the sideline to get into FG range, but point stands)? Yeah that was before the Steelers game. This stupid ass TJ Watt narrative needs to die. His shoulder was clearly messed up prior to it.

it was the eagles game in 2018 when he fell face first onto it.

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