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Speed vs Power

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1 minute ago, L-TownCat said:

Thats what im saying.  Who else has the Personnel to attack us like Dallas did?

Without sitting down and looking at the rosters, I'm not certain. As mentioned above, NFL rules over the last several years have favored passing and I think most teams have built accordingly.

For what it's worth, that also means Dallas could be set up for a pretty good run because teams have been building their defenses to stop the pass. A good power running team might be able to tear through those defenses like tissue paper.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I do kinda wonder if Dallas having a successful run would kickstart a cycle shift though.

The NFL has always worked that way.

Eh...too hard to effectively go against the rules....consistently.

We kinda did the same thing with Double Trouble, ran roughshod over the NFL all the way to the NFCC only to get whipped by Jake.

End of the day, RB's take too much punishment to stay healthy, not many teams can have two "starters" on their rosters at that position, and certainly not many with a top flight WR corps, and a top 5 QB, along with a top 5 O Line.

Ravens kinda did the same thing 2 years ago, and are having a bear of a time replicating that level of consistency.

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42 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Truth be told, with the NFL rules being what they are, I don't know that many teams have emphasized power running.

It's valid that we'll be vulnerable to teams that can do it, but which teams are those?

Dallas gets away with it because the NFL allows them to hold and control speed rushers. That's why they always get killed in the playoffs. Either way we probably don't face another attack like that this year. My biggest fear is keeping Darnold up right not the power run game. 

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8 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Eh...too hard to effectively go against the rules....consistently.

We kinda did the same thing with Double Trouble, ran roughshod over the NFL all the way to the NFCC only to get whipped by Jake.

End of the day, RB's take too much punishment to stay healthy, not many teams can have two "starters" on their rosters at that position, and certainly not many with a top flight WR corps, and a top 5 QB, along with a top 5 O Line.

Ravens kinda did the same thing 2 years ago, and are having a bear of a time replicating that level of consistency.

It happens though. That's a "waiit and see" thing of course.

My bigger concern is that even if other teams aren't necessarily built to attack us that same way, we're still weak in the middle once you get past our defensive tackles.

Middle linebacker and safety aren't positions of strength for us right now. And although I'd love to add an "except for Chinn" disclaimer, I really don't feel like I can.

It's very possible that Chinn just needs more time to transition himself to a safety role, but the early returns haven't been great.

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38 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Thats what im saying.  Who else has the Personnel to attack us like Dallas did?

I can answer that.

In addition to Dallas:  Arizona, LA Chargers, Philadelphia, Kansas City, Buffalo, LA Rams, Detroit, Baltimore, Denver, Tampa and Miami all average 3.0 YBC (yards before contact) or more when rushing.  This is a direct reflection of an offensive line just killing it at the point of attack. 

Here's the chart:

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Any team that gets it's back three yards before he is touched is a team that can blow you off the ball and likely can do what Dallas did.

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