Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Calling Huddle GM’s: How would you fix our QB and O line in ONE offseason?

WarPanthers89

By WarPanthers89,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

ForJimmy Grand Master

ForJimmy

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, Toomers said:

It’s not about what you have. It’s about what you need. The Saints have spent a decade trying to win in their HOF QBs window. The Packers are doing it every in year too. With both having quality players at almost every position. The Panthers have been awful 3 years. 
 

   The Panthers have huge holes at almost every position, no depth and most importantly, no QB. They wasted about 80M in 2021 and just those two you mentioned was 40-50M last year. What would 130M added to this roster? Instead of Teddy, KK, Okung, Boston,Weatherly, Sam, RA extension. Not even counting giving a guy the biggest RB deal…ever. 

All makes sense. The worst part is, we don’t have many draft picks either… The Darnold move is just a complete cluster. We should have Fields or Mac right now (locked in a rookie contract) with and extra $18.5 million and all of our picks available to patch up our offensive line. If RA doesn’t bounce back we can cut him in 2023 with a 3.8 dead cap hit with a net increase of around 12 million so that one isn’t as crazy. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Toomers Mentor

Toomers

Posted
Posted
8 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

All makes sense. The worst part is, we don’t have many draft picks either… The Darnold move is just a complete cluster. We should have Fields or Mac right now (locked in a rookie contract) with and extra $18.5 million and all of our picks available to patch up our offensive line. If RA doesn’t bounce back we can cut him in 2023 with a 3.8 dead cap hit with a net increase of around 12 million so that one isn’t as crazy. 

But they are still paying RA 16.8M in 2022 just to cut him at that number in 2023. 20M for a player who was extended AFTER the new 2nd round pick WR was chosen over OL. And before taking care of Moore. It’s still crazy. How anyone in this organization still has a job is beyond me. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
KillerKat Grand Master

KillerKat

Posted
Posted (edited)

Many here are like "no retread QB!" or "no 1st round QB!". Reality is you need a QB to do anything in the NFL. I'd go after Wilson, Jimmy G, Mayfield, or Derek Carr. Face it, they are all way better than Darnold. Then I would trade back in the 1st and possibly draft QB with the first pick and OL the rest of the draft. Also bring in OL help through FA and/or trade.

Edited by KillerKat
Link to comment
Share on other sites
ForJimmy Grand Master

ForJimmy

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

But they are still paying RA 16.8M in 2022 just to cut him at that number in 2023. 20M for a player who was extended AFTER the new 2nd round pick WR was chosen over OL. And before taking care of Moore. It’s still crazy. How anyone in this organization still has a job is beyond me. 

On a side note I feel some of the positions can be filled pretty cheap. Move Chinn back to LB with Shaq where he thrived and let Kenny Robinson play FS with Franklin or Burris at SS. KR is really our best coverage FS and Chinn played better at LB. Have Nixon, Hoskins, and Roy battle it out for the other DT job next to Brown (I think Nixon has some potential). If we roll with BC, Brown, and Moton we need to keep them at their natural positions and stop shuffling around the OL.  However, most importantly we need to take away Rhule’s roster control so he doesn’t ruin it for the next guy. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Jared Patterson Mentor

Jared Patterson

Posted
Posted
24 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Many here are like "no retread QB!" or "no 1st round QB!". Reality is you need a QB to do anything in the NFL. I'd go after Wilson, Jimmy G, Mayfield, or Derek Carr. Face it, they are all way better than Darnold. Then I would trade back in the 1st and possibly draft QB with the first pick and OL the rest of the draft. Also bring in OL help through FA and/or trade.

Gross. Absolutely the opposite of this embarrassing statement is what we needs to actually happen. Its "no first round QB" because this is one of the worst QB draft classes in the last decade....How would that rookie perform with this Oline.... and then if he didn't make the playoffs you would have to fire Rhule anyway and hire a new coach who would want his guy.  You trade for another retread and they will NOT succeed behind this Oline. Do you realize how much cap space and draft capital you will have to give up to get one of these QBs that's worth a crap? How would you then improve the worst oline in the league with no picks and no cap space? Its reasons like this that we are here in the first place. There is a definition of doing the same thing multiple times and not learning from your mistakes. It's called INSANITY.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
unicar15 Experienced

unicar15

Posted
Posted

Acquire as many picks as possible by trading CMC and D Brown. I actually think you could get two 1sts from those two players. That would leave us with 6th and probably two mid-late 1sts. I like the Tomlinson idea. 
 

Ekwonu, Linderbaum. 
 

LT - Ekwonu

LG - Brady

C - Linderbaum

RG - Tomlinson

RT - Moton

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
unicar15 Experienced

unicar15

Posted
Posted

Another potential approach to this is that they sign Tomlinson and an OT (either Robinson or Armstead) and put all of their eggs into the 1st round QB basket. I don’t love that plan bc if it blows up then it sets the franchise back an additional few years. But I could see this happening. I also don’t love OL FA. They tend to have a ton of wear and tear and get reinjured. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
8 hours ago, Jared Patterson said:

Gross. Absolutely the opposite of this embarrassing statement is what we needs to actually happen. Its "no first round QB" because this is one of the worst QB draft classes in the last decade....How would that rookie perform with this Oline.... and then if he didn't make the playoffs you would have to fire Rhule anyway and hire a new coach who would want his guy.  You trade for another retread and they will NOT succeed behind this Oline. Do you realize how much cap space and draft capital you will have to give up to get one of these QBs that's worth a crap? How would you then improve the worst oline in the league with no picks and no cap space? Its reasons like this that we are here in the first place. There is a definition of doing the same thing multiple times and not learning from your mistakes. It's called INSANITY.

Damn this dude gets it.  The only option we have is build the line this year, roll with Sammy D, draft a qb in the top 5 next year.  It sucks but its a plan

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
57 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Acquire as many picks as possible by trading CMC and D Brown. I actually think you could get two 1sts from those two players. That would leave us with 6th and probably two mid-late 1sts. I like the Tomlinson idea. 
 

Ekwonu, Linderbaum. 
 

LT - Ekwonu

LG - Brady

C - Linderbaum

RG - Tomlinson

RT - Moton

 

Goddamn dude, how many times must it be stated that we are not trading CMAC for numerous reasons.  And to think we could get a first for him.........damn dude just damn

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Untouchable Collaborator

Untouchable

Posted
Posted

Best chance in one year is to use those draft picks from last season. Something like...

LT Christensen

LG FA - this gets experience around the youth. Bunch of solid ones can be had this offseason currently.

C Draft Pick- Linderbaum day 1 or like a Dohnovan West day 2

RG Brown (ideally here but can play LG depending on FA)

RT Moton

QB you either land one of the studs in FA or try your luck with the rookie deal with a Pickett or Corral round 1. Or if you're looking for more run oriented, a Willis or Ridder day 2

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

Best chance in one year is to use those draft picks from last season. Something like...

LT Christensen

LG FA - this gets experience around the youth. Bunch of solid ones can be had this offseason currently.

C Draft Pick- Linderbaum day 1 or like a Dohnovan West day 2

RG Brown (ideally here but can play LG depending on FA)

RT Moton

QB you either land one of the studs in FA or try your luck with the rookie deal with a Pickett or Corral round 1. Or if you're looking for more run oriented, a Willis or Ridder day 2

What qb stud is a free agent?

 

we don’t have a day 2 pick.  

Edited by mrcompletely11
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • tukafan21
      Monday practice tweets

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      I know it's only been training camp and one preseason game, but I think T-Mac has already shown his floor to be exactly what I said about him in the pre-draft process. That his floor if he never improves his game, is as one of the best #2 WRs in the NFL, if not even still a low end #1 (i.e. a 25th-ish best WR in the league). I think it's safe to say he's already established himself as our #1, and there are only a small handful of teams in the league where I don't think he'd be their starting #2 WR in Week 1. Bengals (Higgins), Dolphins (Waddle), Eagles (Smith), Bucs (Godwin if healthy), Rams (Adams) are really the only teams where I think he'd be the #3 as a rookie in Week 1.  A few others like the Lions (Williams), Bears (Odunze), Seahawks (Kupp), Commanders (Deebo), where he'd be the 2b to start the season, just because they're vets and/or already have a year or two of experience with their team/QB. And even having said that, I think by year 2, he's better than every one of those players (And no, I'm not saying he's already going to be better than a prime version of Adams, just whatever he'll be at 33 next year), and same goes for Kupp, but that's more because it seems like his body might be quitting on him in a way that hasn't happened to Adams (yet).
    • tukafan21
      Monday practice tweets

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      Well to be fair, Horn not practicing right now to let his stitches heal up from a car accident isn't something that should be concerning.  Sure, you don't want him missing practice leading into the season, but it's one that once healed, won't have lingering affects or fear of re-injuring it, it was just bad luck.
    • UnluckyforSome
      Austin named starting center

      By UnluckyforSome · Posted

      Quality backups are absolutely important. This franchise has been plagued with depth problems. That said, there is a little bit of dismay that Mays can't beat out a 1-legged man, and all the talk going into the off-season was how BC would certainly be gone since he had position versatility.  In the end, it doesn't matter too awfully much, as I would be shocked to no end if Corbett makes it through the season. We know what we have in reserve, and that should surely be better than trying to sign random fat guys mid season to try and take over.
×
×
  • Create New...