FootballOutsiders with the brutal honesty.

[PantherNation123]

10 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Let's face it, things are so chaotic here and the underside of the organization is churning so bad that no one can predict what will happen here, except to say it will go badly.

This is going to be a long, slogging year.

The issue is, it wont just be this year that is long and slogging. The longer this goes on, the worse whoever has to clean this up has it.  Giving Rhule this draft and off-season signings will handicap at a minimum for 2 more years.   It’s absolutely brutal, but we are turning into the Browns/Jets 2.0.  By time we are sniffing the playoffs, guys like Burns, Moton, Horn, Chinn will be making plays for other teams. 

[rippadonn]

It's just like when someone bought my dad's conversion van. He took such good care of that van. 

Saw it flying through a red light a couple weeks later. Smh. I loved that van. 

Saw it about two months later and they were again flying but now with the side of the van caved in an apparent t-bone.

Watching our Panthers the last four years has been just like watching our family we loved and invested in destroyed by idiots.

Terrible slow motion crash of a pick on a fifth year player who wasn't good enough to be drafted as a junior like Carson Strong.

Picking Pickett is like buying old meat at the supermarket.

[ladypanther]

So, how much of this brutal honesty talk do you think is getting to Tepper?

[Paa Langfart]

6 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

So, how much of this brutal honesty talk do you think is getting to Tepper?

None.  Tepper money makes him like Zod used to claim to be.  Above the fray.

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Paa Langfart

[tiger7_88]

10 hours ago, rhyslloyd said:

So, it's official that Fitterer is either a willing participant in this poo show or is essentially a figurehead with a GM title?

Its been pretty clear since Tepper offered Rhule a legally valid contract (which he signed) that says "You, sir, have full control of my team cuz you were an awesome fry cook!"

[tiger7_88]

9 hours ago, OldhamA said:

So he bought the Panthers for $2.275 billion for shits and giggles?

No, he bought an NFL franchise because (at least in the past) even the worst NFL franchise is a money-printing machine.  You fugging act like he did it as a work of love and charity all at his own expense!  What a guy!  lol 

That's naivety for you.

It would be nice to be able to get to a day in the future though where that isn't the case and where the league needed to be responsive to its customers/fanbase.  Doubt it ever happens, but hope springs eternal.

Edited February 23, 2022 by tiger7_88

[unicar15]

Man Idt anyone has hit it closer in the history of Panthers mocks. 
 

Tepper is about to reveal whether he cares about building or cares about seeing a wager through to the end. 
 

If he cares about building and winning he’ll veto this pick. If he cares about seeing his bet through to the end he’ll draft Pickett in one of the worst picks in draft history…

[tiger7_88]

39 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Tepper is about to reveal whether he cares about building or cares about seeing a wager through to the end. 

Until the TV networks/Streaming are ready to re-claim their honor and tell the NFL "NO!" for the privilege to televise mostly crap, nothing will change.

[CarolinaRideorDie]

13 hours ago, jamos14 said:

I still can't fathom how Tepper let it get to this point.  It's obvious to everyone that Rhule will make decisions that don't help the team long term but only to save his own ass.   And we are a laughing stock.

 

Rhule sucks as a coach.  But this is all Tepper's fault.  He has let it get to this point.

  Can't expect Rhule to fire himself. 

Tepper is like the virgin friend in the group who brags that his new girlfriend is the hottest thing ever but no one has seen her. Introduces her to the group and every bro is silently thinking she is FUGLY. Rhule is Tepper's FUGLY girlfriend, and we all know he is FUGLY except Tepper. 

[Shocker]

LOL…football outsiders indeed

[pantherclaw]

I honestly don't think Rhule even has self preservation thought process. 

He could easily go back to being overpaid at the college level. 

[Khyber53]

14 hours ago, PantherNation123 said:

The issue is, it wont just be this year that is long and slogging. The longer this goes on, the worse whoever has to clean this up has it.  Giving Rhule this draft and off-season signings will handicap at a minimum for 2 more years.   It’s absolutely brutal, but we are turning into the Browns/Jets 2.0.  By time we are sniffing the playoffs, guys like Burns, Moton, Horn, Chinn will be making plays for other teams. 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Mr. Scot]

13 hours ago, ladypanther said:

So, how much of this brutal honesty talk do you think is getting to Tepper?

That's a pretty big question.

[firefox1234]

On 2/23/2022 at 6:37 AM, Zod said:

"

6. Carolina Panthers: Kenny Pickett, Quarterback, Pitt

It’s a poorly-kept secret that the Panthers are shopping on the quarterback trade market. But nobody with a no-trade clause or a second career as a game-show host/podcaster will willingly climb aboard Matt Rhule’s sinking ship.

Once the organization’s options become limited to the Wentz-Garoppolo tier, Rhule will nope out of the veteran market in self-defense. A rookie could give Rhule a developmental mulligan year – think Matt Nagy’s Bears gambit in 2021 – but Malik Willis, the higher-ranked quarterback in the FO 40 (coming soon!), would be too risky. Rhule needs a Mac Jones-type who can look halfway decent immediately, and Pickett’s the only quarterback in the draft remotely in that category.

In other words, this pick has nothing to do with the caliber of the prospect or the needs of the organization but everything to do with the self-preservation instincts of the team’s decision-makers. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how accurate mock draft predictions are made"

 

That first paragraph though, whoo wee mane.

What a damning draft pick summary. Barely anything about the prospect but just a summary on a coaches hope for self preservation.