“A lot of mid-tier prospects, but no franchise QB”

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Check what?

the fact that 2011 QB was looked merely the same as this years.  Yet after Cam turned out alright.  Everyone seems to completely forget?

If I have to explain this to you its not even worth it. 

[ncfan]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

If I have to explain this to you its not even worth it. 

Do explain.

it is worth it.

you clearly must have not been following the draft etc. Back then

you are correct.  Cam did in fact put his team on his back.  But as pointed out that is apples to oranges.  There are other examples of that.  If that was the case The Golden Calf of Bristol and Johnny Football would’ve been can’t miss prospects as well.

Cam had the physical ability.  But he was in a college gimmick offense and there were concerns about his transitioning to pro style offense’s. Etc

 

hence why everyone was down on that QB class.  You can argue all you want.  But the evidence is out there.  All you have to do is Google and it will be filled with articles and links like the one posted above.

[TheCasillas]

46 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Newton was a far superior college player to Willis, and against much better competition.

i dont disagree. this is a good point.

[GoobyPls]

Go google 2017 weak QB class, and it has two top 10 QBs

[Brooklyn 3.0]

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

Check what?

the fact that 2011 QB was looked merely the same as this years.  Yet after Cam turned out alright.  Everyone seems to completely forget?

So what you're saying is that ONE of the QBs out of all the names this draft might be great like Cam? But which one?

OR

Are you saying whaa whaa whaaaaa Cam get dissed ... booooo I sad?

[Ricky Spanish]

3 hours ago, ncfan said:

Playing at a high level in college means what?

The Golden Calf of Bristol was a superior college player at a higher level than 80% of the starters in the NFL.

Cam Newton was a “big armed, athletic, toolsy guy with big upside”. Much like Willis.  They didn’t like Cam because he never played in a NFL style offense and was in a offense molded around him and would need a big learning curb in the NFL

Willis is 6'0 and 1/2 inches tall and 219lbs with a good arm 

Cam was 6'5 and 245 lbs with elite arm strength.  

Cam stepped up in big games, Willis did not. 

Cam threw guys open and didn't leave meat on the bones with his passes downfield. Willis constantly misses reads with open receivers downfield and then scrambles like Johnny Manzel. 

Cam wasn't a scrambler, he ran designed run plays. Willis is an elite scrambler, and he often does it unnecessarily. 

I do not think they are comparable players personally. 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

2011 QB draft sucked dude. Other than Cam the only other decent career there was Andy fuging Dalton.

[SizzleBuzz]

The NFL “ MVP” award is a joke…

…means nothing.

Lombardi or #bust…

[Shocker]

Anyone that sees a franchise QB is this draft has a crystal ball.  There isn’t one period.  Take the best player or look like an azhole later

Cam Newton vs Malik Willis…jesus they could not be farther than equals.  Hilarious.  Cam was light years better …in every way including passing 

Edited March 4, 2022 by Shocker

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, SizzleBuzz said:

The NFL “ MVP” award is a joke…

…means nothing.

Lombardi or #bust…

With your hedgefund bro running the show, it's been a whole lot of bust. David Tepper is the cruel joke inflicted upon us by the NFL. We should've known that when JR was being forced to sell to this guy that they weren't forcing the sell to a guy who was gonna clean their clocks on the field. 

[SizzleBuzz]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

With your hedgefund bro running the show, it's been a whole lot of bust. David Tepper is the cruel joke inflicted upon us by the NFL. We should've known that when JR was being forced to sell to this guy that they weren't forcing the sell to a guy who was gonna clean their clocks on the field. 

Be patient and trust the process bro...

...the Appaloosa Way will prevail

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Be patient and trust the process bro...

...the Appaloosa Way will prevail

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Be patient and trust the process bro...

...the Appaloosa Way will prevail

Unfortunately, it's time to euthanize that horse.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

35 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Be patient and trust the process bro...

...the Appaloosa Way will prevail

nah