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Commies took Wentz's entire contract

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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3 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Who is going to tell @Zod that Wentz can be cut next offseason with zero dead cap in the years to follow?

I think the point here is that they gave up 2nd and 3rd round picks for a QB who looks washed. You're not giving up 2nd and 3rd round picks to rent a guy for a season. Giving up that kind of premium capital the least they could've done was forced Washington to eat some of the contract.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think the point here is that they gave up 2nd and 3rd round picks for a QB who looks washed. You're not giving up 2nd and 3rd round picks to rent a guy for a season. Giving up that kind of premium capital the least they could've done was forced Washington to eat some of the contract.

They gave up 2 3rds and swapped 2nd. They essentially traded a 3rd and a 4th pick for Wentz (since the 3rd is next year). Thats not really premium price to pay. This is a low risk move for them, because they can wipe their hands free after this season if it doesnt work out. 

and how am I supposed to get that point from "Commies took Wentz's entire contract"

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3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

They gave up 2 3rds and swapped 2nd. They essentially traded a 3rd and a 4th pick for Wentz (since the 3rd is next year). Thats not really premium price to pay. This is a low risk move for them, because they can wipe their hands free after this season if it doesnt work out. 

and how am I supposed to get that point from "Commies took Wentz's entire contract"

It's a premium price for a QB who is washed.

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44 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

They gave up 2 3rds and swapped 2nd. They essentially traded a 3rd and a 4th pick for Wentz (since the 3rd is next year). Thats not really premium price to pay. This is a low risk move for them, because they can wipe their hands free after this season if it doesnt work out. 

and how am I supposed to get that point from "Commies took Wentz's entire contract"

From what I read, I'll have to find the link again, the 3rd round pick next year is a conditional one where if Wentz plays more than 70% of Washington's snaps the Colts get a 2nd round pick instead.

 

Commanders get: Carson Wentz, QB; 2022 second-round pick.

Colts get: 2022 third-round pick, 2022 second-round pick, 2023 conditional third-round pick (converts to a second-round pick if Wentz plays 70 percent of snaps).

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5 minutes ago, ichigo1057 said:

From what I read, I'll have to find the link again, the 3rd round pick next year is a conditional one where if Wentz plays more than 70% of Washington's snaps the Colts get a 2nd round pick instead.

 

Commanders get: Carson Wentz, QB; 2022 second-round pick.

Colts get: 2022 third-round pick, 2022 second-round pick, 2023 conditional third-round pick (converts to a second-round pick if Wentz plays 70 percent of snaps).

thanks for the clarification 

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3 hours ago, ichigo1057 said:

From what I read, I'll have to find the link again, the 3rd round pick next year is a conditional one where if Wentz plays more than 70% of Washington's snaps the Colts get a 2nd round pick instead.

 

Commanders get: Carson Wentz, QB; 2022 second-round pick.

Colts get: 2022 third-round pick, 2022 second-round pick, 2023 conditional third-round pick (converts to a second-round pick if Wentz plays 70 percent of snaps).

Yeah, it's way better than the Darnold trade.

 

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13 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Who is going to tell @Zod that Wentz can be cut next offseason with zero dead cap in the years to follow?

True now but his current salary for this year eats up all their available cap space. They'll be doing a simple restructure to kick some down the road.

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The Darnold deal is pretty disturbing because it shows clearly what Fitt had in mind at the time. He really thought that the 5th year option would be a huge financial bargain for the Panthers after Sam DESTROYED the league in the 2021 season. He thought we'd be counting our blessings right now for have Sam tied to such a cheap 18.9 million dollar deal. In other words Fitt is a moron. No one outside of the Panthers brass thought Sam would be good. No other team even bothered with an offer. Spooky stupid.

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2 hours ago, pantherj said:

The Darnold deal is pretty disturbing because it shows clearly what Fitt had in mind at the time. He really thought that the 5th year option would be a huge financial bargain for the Panthers after Sam DESTROYED the league in the 2021 season. He thought we'd be counting our blessings right now for have Sam tied to such a cheap 18.9 million dollar deal. In other words Fitt is a moron. No one outside of the Panthers brass thought Sam would be good. No other team even bothered with an offer. Spooky stupid.

Truth.

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Sadly, Rivera and Hurney have been better at finding and developing quarterbacks than our current regime is proving to be.

Talk about only having to hop over a very low bar. 

Heinicke > Darnold and in what world would you have thought that to be the case three years ago?

 

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3 hours ago, pantherj said:

The Darnold deal is pretty disturbing because it shows clearly what Fitt had in mind at the time. He really thought that the 5th year option would be a huge financial bargain for the Panthers after Sam DESTROYED the league in the 2021 season. He thought we'd be counting our blessings right now for have Sam tied to such a cheap 18.9 million dollar deal. In other words Fitt is a moron. No one outside of the Panthers brass thought Sam would be good. No other team even bothered with an offer. Spooky stupid.

Honestly, I was like, "yeah, this could be a really smart deal if it plays out." Man, did it ever NOT play out.

Epic fail and I was wrong back then. Of course, me being wrong doesn't cripple a franchise, so...

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