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What to do with remaining cap room?


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6 minutes ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

Re-sign Burns, front load the deal, help our future cap out.  We used to have a ton of space next season. After restructures in the Watson push, re-signing DJ, etc., we're now over the cap for next season already. 

Just because we have it, doesn't mean to spend it to improve our mediocrity. 

 

Burns is tough.  He is a great pass rusher.  But he is also way too one dimensional to be worth being paid like a great DE. 

We probably will just have to do it though.  Really need some good run stopping players around him. 

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4 hours ago, Luciu5 said:

RA isn't getting cut. You honestly think that would happen? There is 0 reasons to cut him unless he's a locker room issue. I don't think that's really the case with Sam Darnold being a lame duck. He's also worth more than a 6th round pick. If we had intentions of trading Robby though it would have been before or during the draft. I would be shocked if he wasn't on the team week 1.

Word is they're still looking to trade him, and honestly it sounds like it wouldn't take a huge offer.

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Burns is tough.  He is a great pass rusher.  But he is also way too one dimensional to be worth being paid like a great DE. 

We probably will just have to do it though.  Really need some good run stopping players around him. 

It's been suggested in the past that he might be better as a 3-4 OLB than a 4-3 DE

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4 hours ago, Luciu5 said:

RA isn't getting cut. You honestly think that would happen? There is 0 reasons to cut him unless he's a locker room issue. I don't think that's really the case with Sam Darnold being a lame duck. He's also worth more than a 6th round pick. If we had intentions of trading Robby though it would have been before or during the draft. I would be shocked if he wasn't on the team week 1.

Anderson had the 15th largest cap hit by a NFL WR last year

Anderson was ranked 83rd in recieving yards

Robby is a lameduck too.  This is his last year.  Why wouldn't you trade him for a pick and create 10 million in cap space? 

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1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Duane Brown may still be an option if he wants to come here.

All Brown would do is take snaps away from Ekwonu. 7 to 8 wins is an optimistic ceiling for this team. The main goal of the upcoming season needs to be about finding out what we have in Corral and getting Ickey as much experience as possible.

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22 minutes ago, CRA said:

Anderson had the 15th largest cap hit by a NFL WR last year

Anderson was ranked 83rd in recieving yards

Robby is a lameduck too.  This is his last year.  Why wouldn't you trade him for a pick and create 10 million in cap space? 

Do you attribute those stats to our poor o-line and Sam bad qb play? What are his cap hit numbers this year? That’ll help put it in perspective average of the two and he’s way more valuable then a  4th-5th or any comp pick possible. A young qb needs as many weapons as possible to try to be successful early on.

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3 hours ago, Reebis21 said:

U don’t think Fletcher Cox and Jordan Davis  could provide the same kind of assistance as Burns provided?

No I do not. I think the eagles will have a lot of hype and not live up to it. 

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47 minutes ago, CRA said:

Burns is tough.  He is a great pass rusher.  But he is also way too one dimensional to be worth being paid like a great DE. 

We probably will just have to do it though.  Really need some good run stopping players around him. 

Yeah I'm not thrilled giving him 20+ mil but you have to. If nothing else, gotta sign him and eventually trade him to get anything close to his value. Or, he gets tossed in our inevitable draft trade up next year for a QB. 

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14 minutes ago, trucpfan said:

Do you attribute those stats to our poor o-line and Sam bad qb play? What are his cap hit numbers this year? That’ll help put it in perspective average of the two and he’s way more valuable then a  4th-5th or any comp pick possible. A young qb needs as many weapons as possible to try to be successful early on.

DJ Moore had the 40th biggest cap hit by a NFL WR last year

DJ Moore was 11th in recieving yards. 

He had poor OL play and poor QB play too.  He had it the year prior.  Year prior to that too. 

We overpaid Robby Anderson.  So I just don't see why wouldn't trade him if we he too is a lame duck.  We can create 10 million and cap space and potentially give reps to someone who could be in our plans for big picture. 

Anderson has the 13th largest cap hit for a WR for the upcoming season.  

I don't think Robby is the ideal WR for a young QB either.  He isn't diverse or physical enough.  You want WRs that can help a young QB out.  I'd rather invest in a legit slot WR and throw Higgins or TMJ on the outside. 

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41 minutes ago, CRA said:

Anderson had the 15th largest cap hit by a NFL WR last year

Anderson was ranked 83rd in recieving yards

Robby is a lameduck too.  This is his last year.  Why wouldn't you trade him for a pick and create 10 million in cap space? 

I get all that. But it's not happening. I'm just saying, that's all. We're not trading Robby at this point. I wouldn't bet money on it, but again, I'd be shocked if that came to fruition. During the season, maybe, but I find it highly unlikely he gets traded before the season starts. #realitysuckssometimes

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48 minutes ago, CRA said:

Anderson had the 15th largest cap hit by a NFL WR last year

Anderson was ranked 83rd in recieving yards

Robby is a lameduck too.  This is his last year.  Why wouldn't you trade him for a pick and create 10 million in cap space? 

I'm confused.  He's signed through 2023.  Trading or cutting him will cost an extra 10m this year and we'd still need to find someone and pay them to start opposite DJ.  Why would we do that?

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Just now, Luciu5 said:

I get all that. But it's not happening. I'm just saying, that's all. We're not trading Robby at this point. I wouldn't bet money on it, but again, I'd be shocked if that came to fruition. During the season, maybe, but I find it highly unlikely he gets traded before the season starts. #realitysuckssometimes

to get the 10 mill in cap savings, he has to be a post June 1 move though.  Which is why I thought the draft talk made little sense.  I think they clearly have been talking about dealing Robby.  And it's probably for a move where they can get that cap space. 

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14 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

I'm confused.  He's signed through 2023.  Trading or cutting him will cost an extra 10m this year and we'd still need to find someone and pay them to start opposite DJ.  Why would we do that?

my bad.  you are right.  I had the contract messed up in my head.  

in 2023, his cap hit currently is 21 million.  So they will 100% have to do something with Robby and his contract prior to 2023. 

Cutting post June also creates 10 million in cap space to use.   We drafted TMJ.   Put him out there.  I'm a firm believer in repping the guys you drafted.  Especially when in this building type of window.   Either TMJ can fill the void or he can't.  If he can't you just roleplay it by committee. 

and I think they could use some of that money to go get a real WR to insert into the slot.  That would help our QBs.   That was one of the reasons their was such a change in our from 2020 to 2021.  The slot.  It was chain moving position in 2020.   We lacked that type option in 2021.  But I don't think Sam can utlize it like Teddy.   But it would still help.  Help Corral too. 

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