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16 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

A number of folks act like they really want to win something this year.  We're just not ready.

The best we can do is keep/start Darnold.  Let the OL gel.  Replace Darnold with Corral around mid-year.  Win 6-7 games total.  Secure that top 10 again.  And grab a stud WR in the draft.

Corral will learn from Darnold (mistakes and all), his coaches, seeing the game up close, reps in practice, and eventually on-the-field.  The thought of bringing in some retread for Corral to "learn from" is just crazy talk.

 

No one is thinking Foles or Fitzpatrick are taking us to the promise land.  But would you rather a rookie learn the ropes from a QB that has never won at the NFL level, never been on a winning team (Darnold), or from a guy that led his team to a Super Bowl and has a winning record (Foles) or from a 17 year veteran and probably the smartest man in the NFL (Fitzpatrick)?  

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41 minutes ago, gofightwin said:

No one is thinking Foles or Fitzpatrick are taking us to the promise land.  But would you rather a rookie learn the ropes from a QB that has never won at the NFL level, never been on a winning team (Darnold), or from a guy that led his team to a Super Bowl and has a winning record (Foles) or from a 17 year veteran and probably the smartest man in the NFL (Fitzpatrick)?  

I don't think it will make a bit of difference to Corral's development if he shares the QB room with Darnold vs. some other mediocre QB for a year.

There are so many ways to learn - There is a QB coach. There is film. There is the playbook. There are practices.  There are the games.  

Just what do you imagine he's going to learn from Fitz (career record 59-87, 1 winning season in which he started half his team's games) and Foles (29-27, a journeyman who has 56 starts in 10 years) that he wont learn from Darnold and the sources listed above.

Why would we piss away 18m and then pay some scrub 2-3 million more for some sort of magical tutelage?

The best play is to try to rehabilitate Darnold. Let him take the beating as the OL learns to play together.  Highlight his mistakes in film study.  And if he's decent, maybe he nets a comp pick next year.

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3 hours ago, frankw said:

The options are all flawed some more than others. It's either cave to the draft compensation demands of the Niners or Browns for Jimmy/Baker or either the worst starting quarterback in the NFL the last two seasons or a run of the mill veteran. At the end of the day out of all options involved Sam "you're just a fan go strap up bud" Darnold is the last person we want teaching a young QB anything.

Agreed, but that's why I said Sam has to go regardless.😂

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2 hours ago, grimesgoat said:

I don't think it will make a bit of difference to Corral's development if he shares the QB room with Darnold vs. some other mediocre QB for a year.

There are so many ways to learn - There is a QB coach. There is film. There is the playbook. There are practices.  There are the games.  

Just what do you imagine he's going to learn from Fitz (career record 59-87, 1 winning season in which he started half his team's games) and Foles (29-27, a journeyman who has 56 starts in 10 years) that he wont learn from Darnold and the sources listed above.

Why would we piss away 18m and then pay some scrub 2-3 million more for some sort of magical tutelage?

The best play is to try to rehabilitate Darnold. Let him take the beating as the OL learns to play together.  Highlight his mistakes in film study.  And if he's decent, maybe he nets a comp pick next year.

Do you think the QB coach is the one watching film and going over playbooks with these guys for hours a night and in the offseason?  Nope. Its the other QB's in the room. Darnold had one year with a veteran QB in the room.  Darnold has a great arm but doesn't seem like a ton between the ears.  Sure, I doubt they could learn more from a dude with a Super Bowl MVP with 4-2 playoff record or the Harvard dude with 35,000 passing yards as backup than they could from Darnold. 

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Foles’ teammates seem to love the guy (except Wentz) but he’s only been good with Philly.  People often forget about that wacky 27 TD 2 INT season with Chip Kelly in 2013.  Something about Philly is magic for Nicholas Foles.  If he was mentoring Corral, sure.  But I don’t want him playing 

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