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Suleiman introduced to Jeffrey Laurie (by Nicole Tepper)

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From Albert Breer, covering the NFL Diversity Summit (link)

Vincent saw Lions owner Sheila Ford Hamp bringing her assistant GM, Ray Agnew, to other owners in the room, and Bears owner George McCaskey doing the same with defensive coordinator Alan Williams. Suleiman said Nicole Tepper got him over to Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, and even commissioner Roger Goodell was helpful in that regard.

It's definitely possible cap guy Samir Suleiman could wind up getting a job promotion elsewhere before Dan Morgan does.

I get the point of the summit, and I respect Suleiman's career goals, but have to admit the idea of introducing one of our top guys to another team's owner makes me wince a little.

Not a huge deal, just kinda 😕

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I think a spreadsheet could do that guy's job better. I know he is aggressive but to date I am completely unimpressed with him.

I hope he becomes a GM elsewhere. It would be interesting to watch and it would be a positive to move him along IMO.

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

If we can get two thirds for the “cap specialist” guy who currently has us at negative $12M in cap space over 2022 and 2023 after three 5 win seasons, I’m OK with that. Feels like it wasn’t that long ago we talked about how we had poo ton of space.

Does the 30 million we have this year not going to carry over? And will the cap not shoot up next year?

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6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Damn it, browser refreshed my reply. The $24M carry over (according to Spotrac, which has Burns 5th year, 2022 rookies and Moore’s new deal) is included in my negative $12M total because we are at negative $36M in 2023. So, whatever shoot up will have the negative $12M and 2023 rookies cancelling out some. The only two teams that are below us in 2023 are NO and TB, who are throwing money at their window. We shouldn’t be in the same ball park considering we aren’t even in a window. Jacksonville is just a little better off than us in 2023 and their GM just said he sucked at drafting so they’d been spending way too much in FA.

We're also close to maxed out on extensions/restructures of decent players. Might be cutting players like Shaq and Robby next year who didn't deserve their large contracts in the first place. $45M in cap hit next year for those two is insane. 

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53 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

We're also close to maxed out on extensions/restructures of decent players. Might be cutting players like Shaq and Robby next year who didn't deserve their large contracts in the first place. $45M in cap hit next year for those two is insane. 

Shaq didn't deserve it when he got it but he definitely earned it last year.

 

Between the two I'd rather keep Shaq just because we have no one of value behind him, and we have other WRs that could step up and do what Robby did last year.

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22 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Shaq didn't deserve it when he got it but he definitely earned it last year.

 

Between the two I'd rather keep Shaq just because we have no one of value behind him, and we have other WRs that could step up and do what Robby did last year.

I mean....we can get a WR that does what Robby did last year on a vet minimum deal.

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2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Rashard Higgins can do what Robby did last year. Robby had 519 yards and 5 TDs on 110 targets last year. Higgins had only 99 targets in the past two years but he had 974 yards and 5 TDs. Higgins on 11 less targets had almost 90% more yards. Marshall had a pretty poor rookie year and he was still about as effective as Anderson.

And yet…we now are paying Robby $15M per year. SMH. 

Yeah, if Robby has another year like last, heads should roll somewhere on the staff or FO for that contract.

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4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean....we can get a WR that does what Robby did last year on a vet minimum deal.

The team took a lot of poo for picking up sam’s 5th year option and rightfully so. The Robby massive extension was almost as dumb and shortsighted as that. 

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17 hours ago, stbugs said:

Rashard Higgins can do what Robby did last year.

Why would the team want that?

Can't help but think that trying to get a player who's play fits the pay rather than a player who's play exceeds the pay is a bit shortsighted. 

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