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1 minute ago, joemac said:

If Baker comes in and plays like he did the year before last, you have to seriously consider signing him to a long term deal and making him our franchise QB.  Hes got the talent to take a middling team to the playoffs. 

But can you trust him to be that guy consistently?

In fairness, if he does light it up here that would be a big feather in his cap. It's a far worse overall team than he was ever on in Cleveland. 

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10 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Yea that would be great, so instead of wasting our 2nd round pick, 4th rounder, and 6th rounder on a QB last season, we could have wasted our first on a QB who was just as shitty last season. That is not good team building. 

Just to recap a 1st,2nd,4th,and 6th and still no answer at QB.....yea thanks but no thanks. 

Who is talking about a first for Mayfield?!?!

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Just now, Manna said:

If this will help Corral, then do it. If not, then don’t. I’m tired of these bandaid QBs. 

Well Corral also might not be the answer. He was a 3rd round(likely would have been 4th) QB. 

You really expect them to put all their eggs in that basket?

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Well Corral also might not be the answer. He was a 3rd round(likely would have been 4th) QB. 

You really expect them to put all their eggs in that basket?

They better be scouting next year's qb class hard. I would be taking a qb regardless of what Corral does this season.  

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50 minutes ago, joemac said:

For real.  If we get Baker in here and only have to pay him like 5 million dollars this season, thats about as big a win as you could possibly ask for.  

Agreed. The guy is a jackass but he has legit talent and maybe a big slice of humble pie is what he needs. I mean, Aaron Rodgers is a huge jackass too but he has the elite talent to get away with it. Not calling Mayfield a Rodgers level talent by any means, just staying that jackassery isn't necessarily a total deal breaker.

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2 minutes ago, joemac said:

Some people REALLY let their emotions cloud their judgement when it comes to evaluating a player.  Especially QBs. 

Yes they do. OR how many commercials a guy has been in. 

Having 15 TV commercials does not make you a good QB. 

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9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

To be fair, last year wasn't his only bad year. He's been an every other year player. 

That's probably the biggest reason why everyone is steering clear. He's insanely inconsistent. Even by gunslinger standards. 

year two they handed the keys to the franchise to Freddie Kitchens, who was in over his head.

2020 they brought in Kevin Stefanski and went to the playoffs for the first time in a generation.

Baker then got hurt and played through an injury all season in 2021. Still had a better season than he did under Freddie Kitchens. 

Baker is by no means a generational talent, but he's good enough to take a team to the playoffs. 

He would be an immediate upgrade to our QB room.

My only concern is how badly we would get shafted if we traded for him. 

My personal opinion is that we should roll with Corral regardless. Hit the reset button next season if need be and move on from Rhule if we miss the playoffs again. 

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2 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Yes they do. OR how many commercials a guy has been in. 

Having 15 TV commercials does not make you a good QB. 

Very true.  Agreed.  Actually, when a QB starts making commercials, he usually starts going down hill on the field.  Aaron Rodgers not withstanding. 

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