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8 hours ago, rippadonn said:

If Matt Rhule and Fitterer were smart they'd get behind Matt Corral. If Rhule came out and proclaimed that with the drafting of Ickey and Corral the future was now the rebuild he dreamed of was complete, people could believe in that. If him and Ickey do good people will give you time to refine that. You bring in another reject and go 7-10, we're still in Jetsville the bottom not having prioritized developing perhaps our best investment to date.

I'm sorry to those I just can't agree with when it comes to letting Corral sit. I just don't think sitting does anything reps won't do better. If his game translates to the NFL you've got an Aaron Rodgers type of QB. Perfect QB for McAdoo. 

Out of all the football conferences in college the SEC has the top talent, no debating that. THAT'S who Matt Corral was beating, throwing on, running on. The biggest, the fastest.  Once he adjusts to the speed of the game he'll be equal to Mac Jones or better. To do that you must be in the game.

LET'S GO!

You also can't expect him to learn anything but bad habits sitting behind Darnold or Mayfield. Also people wanting him to have a year in the system,we might not even have the same coaching staff this time next year, he needs to at minimum get some meaningful minutes to get a taste of what it's really like on the field. Not 2 minutes of garbage time at the end of a blowout type minutes, starting or replacing a QB in a close game minutes

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5 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

You also can't expect him to learn anything but bad habits sitting behind Darnold or Mayfield. Also people wanting him to have a year in the system,we might not even have the same coaching staff this time next year, he needs to at minimum get some meaningful minutes to get a taste of what it's really like on the field. Not 2 minutes of garbage time at the end of a blowout type minutes, starting or replacing a QB in a close game minutes

Corral needs game speed reps against a defense that spent all week preparing for him. The only way that happens if he's the starter. Maybe not week one, but it needs to happen 

That is the best way for him to learn the game and for us to learn about him. He'll have some painfully bad moments. What you're hoping for is to see enough good to know he's your guy going forward and you can put you draft picks and cap into other areas going forward.

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58 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Corral needs game speed reps against a defense that spent all week preparing for him. The only way that happens if he's the starter. Maybe not week one, but it needs to happen 

That is the best way for him to learn the game and for us to learn about him. He'll have some painfully bad moments. What you're hoping for is to see enough good to know he's your guy going forward and you can put you draft picks and cap into other areas going forward.


Yep. We’re drafting high enough next year to get another QB regardless of who starts. Let’s see who Corral is so we know if we need to take advantage of next years deep QB class.

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Unless we end up with a top 5 pick again, I seriously doubt we are going to draft a QB if Corral sits on the pine this year. 

The O-line is much improved, at least on paper, and he won't be running for his life like David Carr.  

Put him in, let him learn as he goes.  Most 1st year starters struggle at the beginning of their careers.  I would rather Corral get his learning done during a season where we are not suppose to be competitive.  It would be a shame if we put together a great team and than we throw Corral out there for the first time.

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6 hours ago, frankw said:

Please end this Golden Corral madness.

Not until he's named the starter and Sam the veteran backup. 

What's really annoying is watching the Panthers fumble the bag at QB over and over and over.

Fielding another used up has been in over your admitted top QB on the board that year. That's madness.

This is a movement.

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1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Unless we end up with a top 5 pick again, I seriously doubt we are going to draft a QB if Corral sits on the pine this year. 

The O-line is much improved, at least on paper, and he won't be running for his life like David Carr.  

Put him in, let him learn as he goes.  Most 1st year starters struggle at the beginning of their careers.  I would rather Corral get his learning done during a season where we are not suppose to be competitive.  It would be a shame if we put together a great team and than we throw Corral out there for the first time.

This is not going to happen with a coach/GM that are on a short leash. 

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7 hours ago, electro's horse said:

just want to jump in and say the 2021 panthers offensive line might have been the worst one ive ever watched

a worse performance doesn't jump right to mind

 

 

3 hours ago, Khaki Lackey said:

2014 was close

Go and watch the 2010 offense.  It was no where near that bad.

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1 hour ago, rippadonn said:

Not until he's named the starter and Sam the veteran backup. 

What's really annoying is watching the Panthers fumble the bag at QB over and over and over.

Fielding another used up has been in over your admitted top QB on the board that year. That's madness.

This is a movement.

I mean the nickname. Surely we can fix our guy up with something better than a buffet chain.

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2 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

They may have no other choice.  Cleveland is still asking too much for Mayfield and Corral may give them a better opportunity to win than Darnold. 

Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited to see Corral. I just don’t see Fitt and Rhule rolling with Darnold or a rookie in what might be their final go-round. 

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