baker is a franchise quarterback

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I wanted Fields so bad…

Same. Don't care about the hindsight crowd. Those are usually also the we'll get em next time crowd

[CPF4LIFE]

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

bakers defenders are bringing it today.  Love it

No need to defend him. I am just explaining it to you the way it is. You have to do your part to understand basic football.

[WOW!!]

I know the sentiment around here and it's well deserved... But we scored 24 points on a top 5 defense with a new Oline and a new QB.. 

[rippadonn]

 

This guy agrees!

 

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

No need to defend him. I am just explaining it to you the way it is. You have to do your part to understand basic football.

Baker IS basic football. Not a franchise player. Cleveland is happy. You're welcome 

[Davidson Deac II]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It only looked good because of his play in the 1st half. He started looking better but I would not call it great. Good enough to win if he hadn't played like ass in the first half.  But the loss is not all on him. It was a team effort. 

It looked great because he played great in the second half and how he played in the first is completely irrelevant in judging how he played in the second half.   Not saying he will be our franchise qb, but for one half of football, he played great.  I mean completing 75% of your passes under constant pressure for a 150 yards is great.  

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I know the sentiment around here and it's well deserved... But we scored 24 points on a top 5 defense with a new Oline and a new QB.. 

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rippadonn]

Just now, Davidson Deac II said:

It looked great because he played great in the second half and how he played in the first is completely irrelevant in judging how he played in the second half.   Not saying he will be our franchise qb, but for one half of football, he played great.  I mean completing 75% of your passes under constant pressure for a 150 yards is great.  

Inconsistent. Why didn't he play TWO good halves? The story of his whole career.

[top dawg]

13 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

This is Baker's 4th system in 5 years. What his body of work shows is that he rallies his team and is a good leader on the field. He took Cleveland and made them a playoff team. He is going to do the same thing for us if not this year then next. But your boy Corral needs to keep learning to eventually take over. But intangibles like fire and heart is what takes an athletic qb and makes them a franchise qb. You need to stop trying to criticize Baker as if it has any Impact on what happens to Corral.

This is stupid. My thoughts on Baker and especially his play today have absolutely nothing to do with Corral. Zero! 

I'm not drinking the Baker Kool-Aid simply because you think that I should. He wasn't good enough today, and obviously the Browns (and, I don't know, maybe 30 other FOs) weren't gorging on the Baker Kool-Aid as much as you.

I said that he's going to have to play better, and that's what I mean. His career has been decidedly average. Make all the excuses you want to in the world, and it's not going to change the bottom line. If Baker doesn't show much better than he did today, then he won't be getting an opportunity to lead us anywhere next season. I'm rooting for him, but I expected better than we got today. Maybe next week.

Edited September 11, 2022 by top dawg

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

It looked great because he played great in the second half and how he played in the first is completely irrelevant in judging how he played in the second half.   Not saying he will be our franchise qb, but for one half of football, he played great.  I mean completing 75% of your passes under constant pressure for a 150 yards is great.  

alright cool, but why did he look like dogshit in the first?

[jb2288]

Baker today: 235/1/1/ 88 QBR

Sam Game 1 2021: 279/1/0 102 QBR

Both 1 rushing TD. Sam's game against the Jets was more impressive last year just stat wise but for some reason I feel much better about Mayfield today. Maybe its because he looked so bad first half then was able to put it together and lead us back vs Sam played ahead all last year and I was more worried about him just imploding (which he did eventually). Will be interesting to compare again after 3 games which is where Sam started to fall apart. 

[joemac]

21 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

We could have had a franchise Qb in year 2 of a rookie deal

 

Lol. 8/17 121 yards 2 TDs 1 INT. Big whoop

[top dawg]

17 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I already see we are going to have posters that originally were down on Baker stay down on him when he plays well. I know we will have the opposite as well. I feel most rational people think he did his part today and willed them into a position to win the game (only to be let down by his coach and defense).

If Baker actually hits Shi as opposed to throwing the crucial pick, that may have changed a loss into a win. He was as much a part of this loss as anyone. 

Baker is going to have to play better. Does he have it in him? Maybe. He's going to have to prove that he's a franchise QB, just like anyone. Some of you need to raise your expectations. If we had won, it would have been an ugly win. It was not a dominant performance. Maybe Baker will have one next week.