Can we officially declare TMJ a bust?

[rayzor]

We won't hear his name mentioned in any games other than to hear that he's on the field 

[Jackie Lee]

22 minutes ago, rayzor said:

We won't hear his name mentioned in any games other than to hear that he's on the field 

Or on the inactive list

[onmyown]

Rhule’s drafts are looking worse and worse…or is it the coaching…or both…good lord it’s all just so bad

[CPantherKing]

Those Fitterer drafts and trades have got to be some of the worst draft capital I have ever seen spent by a GM.

[Actionman0z]

2 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

Coaching?

He barely practices 

[Carolina Cajun]

I wouldn't say bust, but I don't think he's motivated.  I believe he is salvageable but he has to go to a team he cares for, I don't think he ever wanted to be a panther so he just is kinda mini-antonio brown sabatoging it.

[GoobyPls]

Him and Robbie have similar skill set so the only way he see snaps is if one of those top two get injured. I’m guessing he can’t play the slot which his fault 

[electro's horse]

8 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Big time bust. Eric Shelton Jr. 

not Shelton.

worst case with TMJ: his style does not translate to the nfl 

average case: good player, needs to be coached up, horrible situation from a coaching/depth chart perspective, shi smith better practice player 

best case: he’s a great receiver, our coaches are just mannequins 

shelton took literally one hit during his first padded practice, said “fug this” and never wanted to play again. 

[electro's horse]

3 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Him and Robbie have similar skill set so the only way he see snaps is if one of those top two get injured. I’m guessing he can’t play the slot which his fault 

TMJ? Good lord not at all. 

[Aussie Tank]

Once Viska is up to speed I can see us shopping TMJ for anything we can get 

[rayzor]

Less of an impact than Dwayne Jarrett. 

[kungfoodude]

9 hours ago, CRA said:

Can you call anyone a bust whose 1 season in the NFL featured Sam Darnold being your QB? 

I frankly have a hard time holding the 2021 season against anyone that would be dependent on Sam? Let alone a rookie  WR.   It was a bad spot to be in. 

But Baker is a legit gunslinger and they give WRs the opportunity to shine so….we should know pretty soon.   Shi jumping him says a lot IMO

Yeah, I think that's the thing. He is clearly not impressing anyone in this organization.

I don't think it's completely safe to call him a bust, but I also don't anticipate him having much of an NFL career. 

I would be very surprised if he turns it around. There is really very little evidence he has shown during the regular season that he can be that guy.

[kungfoodude]

7 hours ago, onmyown said:

Rhule’s drafts are looking worse and worse…or is it the coaching…or both…good lord it’s all just so bad

That was my big fear after the 2021 draft. People saw that and thought it was good. To me it was almost a complete disaster. 

TBD still but it isn't looking very good.

[electro's horse]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That was my big fear after the 2021 draft. People saw that and thought it was good. To me it was almost a complete disaster. 

TBD still but it isn't looking very good.

I’m suspicious a lot of these Rhule guys are going to end up elsewhere and have productive, not necessarily spectacular, careers. 
 

you don’t need hall of famers: you just need guys that can produce. That’s what killed us during the hurney years. We’d have entire drafts after the first round of guys that would never earn a second contract. 
 

at least with hurney we got the all pro first rounder.