Henderson has to go...

[Panthers Rhule]

34 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Not reactionary when I've been saying it for going on a year.

I don't think you're helping yourself here. Henderson has been ok. Not a problem. 

[Proudiddy]

Just now, Panthers Rhule said:

I don't think you're helping yourself here. Henderson has been ok. Not a problem. 

Ok.  Go check out his highlight reel of shutdown plays for his year plus here...  let me know what you find.

[RumHam]

Remember when we traded a tight end for him

[MillionDollarCam]

I think it’s fairly clear that he’s an average corner that occasionally makes a really nice play. The disappointment comes from hearing all the reports of him locking Moore down in practice… but at this point, I think it’s obvious that it was all a result of McAdoo and our inept offense, not necessarily Henderson. 

[Basbear]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Remember the talk that he didn't love the game and had even thought about quitting before we traded for him?  I think he should revisit that tough question for himself and save Fhule from that dilemma. 

This dude sucks.

 

The ball nearly hit Henderson in the head on that huge pass, he had decent coverage, just great pass and catch.

Plus this is main reason- If you have JC Horn on one-side and Henderson on the other, who are you throwing at??!?!?!? My answer would be Henderson and Im a fan.

Hes still learning, one time Wilkis was coaching him up face2face on the sideline. Trash is not the correct term.  

Edited September 25, 2022 by Basbear

[ImaginaryKev]

Gave up one deep pass to a dude who runs a 4.3, hasn't been torched much this year and had made good plays on the ball, not sure what some of y'all are watchin

[roaddog96]

I mean, he's better than what's behind him. The only mistake I blame him for the whole year was the dumb contact when Woods had a gimme pick Week 1. 

[micnificent28]

hes been fine. of course hes not a superstar jump right off the tape type guy if that was the case we wouldnt have been able to aquire him. the truth is usually somewhere in the middle and thats where Henderson has been. just a average guy and thats ok. im not mad at him nor so i think we over overpaid. hes been fine.

[The Natural]

I think the problem is you have extremely unrealistic expectations. This isn't Madden, even the greats are going to give up plays. While not being perfect he has certainly held his own to this point.

[poundaway]

Not a fan of CJ.  I'm still not sure he was worth the trade last year.

That said, he's better than Taylor and Oliver atm.

[TheCasillas]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Ok.  Go check out his highlight reel of shutdown plays for his year plus here...  let me know what you find.

How about last week when zero balls were thrown his direction … does that count?

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

How about last week when zero balls were thrown his direction … does that count?

Are you suggesting this is a negative?

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

How about last week when zero balls were thrown his direction … does that count?

If you want it to.  But again, I'm speaking to his entire body of work.  You're picking one game, I'm talking about all of them.  It could be argued that he singlehandedly lost the Cleveland game with what was one of the worst PI penalties ever committed where he had absolutely no reason to give up on that play.  Its one thing if you're doing it to save a TD where you just got smoked on a route.  It's another to do it when you're near your cover, have help nearby, and can still make a play.  Should've been the end of a drive, instead he essentially gave them 7.

I get it...  I've been playing and following football for 28 years.  It's a lot like OLinemen, the less you notice them, the better they're doing...  the issue is, Henderson's ONLY notable plays since hes been here are the bad ones.  No flashes of brilliance and gamebreaking athleticism and cover skills that made him a Top 10 pick.  I went down the list earlier in the thread...  his only memorable moments have been bad.  There have not been any impressive, amazing plays in coverage.  And no, I don't expect him to make those on the regular as even the best only get a few picks a year, but that's not even my standard...  I'm talking about PBUs, great coverage forcing errors by their QBs, etc.  

And whereas some have argued that he's fine because he's average, I disagree.  I don't expect him to be all-world, but I expect him to not be a liability, and more often than not he has in his year here, and I honestly, just from the ye test, like what I see more from Taylor than what I've seen from Henderson.

If you like him, cool.  I'm just not impressed and think Taylor is better.

[poundaway]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

If you want it to.  But again, I'm speaking to his entire body of work.  You're picking one game, I'm talking about all of them.  It could be argued that he singlehandedly lost the Cleveland game with what was one of the worst PI penalties ever committed where he had absolutely no reason to give up on that play.  Its one thing if you're doing it to save a TD where you just got smoked on a route.  It's another to do it when you're near your cover, have help nearby, and can still make a play.  Should've been the end of a drive, instead he essentially gave them 7.

I get it...  I've been playing and following football for 28 years.  It's a lot like OLinemen, the less you notice them, the better they're doing...  the issue is, Henderson's ONLY notable plays since hes been here are the bad ones.  No flashes of brilliance and gamebreaking athleticism and cover skills that made him a Top 10 pick.  I went down the list earlier in the thread...  his only memorable moments have been bad.  There have not been any impressive, amazing plays in coverage.  And no, I don't expect him to make those on the regular as even the best only get a few picks a year, but that's not even my standard...  I'm talking about PBUs, great coverage forcing errors by their QBs, etc.  

And whereas some have argued that he's fine because he's average, I disagree.  I don't expect him to be all-world, but I expect him to not be a liability, and more often than not he has in his year here, and I honestly, just from the ye test, like what I see more from Taylor than what I've seen from Henderson.

If you like him, cool.  I'm just not impressed and think Taylor is better.

Taylor looked  as bad as Henderson last year, and looked terrible in preseason this year.  If Taylor is your solution, I'll pass.