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Person analyzes Rhule's time as Panthers coach

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2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 I think Darnold was supposed to be Rhule's "Developmental young QB", "he was the same age as the guys in the draft, he just needs a new environment", etc..

Hell, that might have made sense if we'd have had a real "QB guru" type on staff.

We had Joe Brady and Sean Ryan.

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56 minutes ago, Samppson said:

This part is interesting, I do remember there being a lot of questioning why he waited through the bye week to fire Brady, when he could have given his new OC another full week to prepare for the transition. 

Also, I wonder how Brady felt, working all week to hopefully improve the offense, just for your boss to get back from taking his vacation and can you lol.

I remember that too, and the more that comes out, I'm shifting from believing he just didn't know to that he actually just didn't care. 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

This part interests me...

Panthers general manager Scott Fitterer has said the best plan with quarterbacks is to draft and develop one. But under Rhule, the Panthers continued to reach, hoping they would hit on a franchise leader through free agency or a trade.

We had heard that there was debate last year among team leadership regarding drafting a quarterback. Most of us interpreted that as Tepper wanting to go the draft route with Justin Fields but Rhule and Fitterer being against it.

I'm now wondering if Fitterer might have wanted to draft a QB. Maybe Fields, maybe someone else, but a QB either way.

We dodged a bullet on Fields. He's not developing well in Chicago, he'd have done even worse here.

You really need a proved OC and QB coach on hand BEFORE you even evaluate draftable QBs. Or even try to pick up a veteran, I guess. We haven't had those guys in quite some time.

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9 minutes ago, Tbe said:

So Rhule was great at the relational side of things but bad at the Xs and Os.

Perfect college head coach.

BTW…That kinda describes Wilks as well.

Heck, you can win with that if  the head coach knows how to pick the right guys for his staff.

Rhule obviously didn't.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Heck, you can win with that if  the head coach knows how to pick the right guys for his staff.

Rhule obviously didn't.


I don’t see any modern examples of coaches that like that who can sustain success. Good staff always leave.

The best head coaches in recent memory have always been really good coordinators. X and O guys.

Wilks is not that guy.

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1 hour ago, Samppson said:

This part is interesting, I do remember there being a lot of questioning why he waited through the bye week to fire Brady, when he could have given his new OC another full week to prepare for the transition. 

Also, I wonder how Brady felt, working all week to hopefully improve the offense, just for your boss to get back from taking his vacation and can you lol.

I mean regardless of what you think of Joe Brady.  It’s a bad look in-house. 

Rhule was called on it at the time.  And his justification was such painful bullshit.  Basically an extra week of prep time doesn’t help anyone lol. 

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16 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean regardless of what you think of Joe Brady.  It’s a bad look in-house. 

Rhule was called on it at the time.  And his justification was such painful bullshit.  Basically an extra week of prep time doesn’t help anyone lol. 

Like clockwork.

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12 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean regardless of what you think of Joe Brady.  It’s a bad look in-house. 

Rhule was called on it at the time.  And his justification was such painful bullshit.  Basically an extra week of prep time doesn’t help anyone lol. 

Well, with The Process, an extra week probably doesn't matter.  Or month for that matter.  Or year.

Rhule was basically nothing but a BS artist.  Tepper got into this mess by listening to another BS artist tell him he had to jump at the chance to hire this BS artist.  He wasn't savvy enough to realize the entire situation.

I guess he didn't understand that when you take the job of being an NFL HC, your life basically is put on hold between July and January.  That is the price of the job.  All the BSing in the world doesn't alter that much.

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17 minutes ago, Tbe said:

I don’t see any modern examples of coaches that like that who can sustain success. Good staff always leave.

The best head coaches in recent memory have always been really good coordinators. X and O guys.

Wilks is not that guy.

I'm only saying it's possible.

Anymore it's neither common, nor preferred, and it's definitely not what I'd want here.

I disagree with the notion that Wilks isn't a good Xs and Os guy though.

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