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REPORT: Burns practically a "lock" to be traded before the deadline


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To be honest, it makes a lot of sense.  We don't really have the room for him and he's going to want quite a contract.  It puts us in position to trade him to a place that can instantly sign him long term.  

Top pass rushers garner a lot of value---what do you feel would be the destination and comp?

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Baltimore for a minimum 2023 1st, 4th, 2024 2nd

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Well, this would be really dumb. Which means it's something the Panthers are highly likely to do.

It almost needs to happen or he can just refuse a re-sign and go elsewhere.  We aren't going to be able to offer what other clubs can. And it hinges on him wanting to come back and negotiate an extension.  

And his new contract with us would hinder the cap an incredible amount.  It's a tough spot.  Is he worth a superstar contract to make things even tighter? Or should we get max value?

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Just now, Rags said:

So this guy is a notrious BSer, check his previous tweets. He has no sources, he just spews poo and sees what sticks.

That said I can see us trading Burns because DEs are expensive. I wouldn't agree with it but I can see it.

Yep, I didn't realize this dude was a bad track record.  Certaintly gets a discussion started though haha

I'd love him to stay by all means, but I could see why we would get what we can for him right now.

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1 minute ago, Shotgun said:

Unless he's made it clear that he doesn't want to be here. Might as well get something for him.  

Exactly.  We didn't negotiate a new contract last year, just picked up his 5th year, and there's been no news on a new one.  I'd prefer not to ride him out and then have a Peppers situation again.  

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ultimately and ideally you’d like the next coach to decide what to do with Burns. the next best thing is to offer said coach draft picks at the least. Not sure if a huge contract is doable in trying to rebuild - rebuilding the right way takes a lot of capital

worst thing is he walks and we get nothing which is the Panther way

its really unfortunate they paid Anderson and Thomas

more stupid financial moves holding the team back what’s new

 

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12 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Trading Brian Burns would be the stupidest move we could make…he is clearly our best defender by a large margin

Well some of it could relate more to what 89 talked about.  He said 2 weeks ago is when he would have demanded out of Charlotte. 

so we likely have guys that want no part of a long rebuild.  There window is now. 

 

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Just now, CRA said:

Well some of it could relate more to what 89 talked about.  He said 2 weeks ago is when he would do demanded out of Charlotte. 

so we likely have guys that want no part of a long rebuild.  There window is now. 

And who more convenient to ask than the young, versatile, sack specialist 1st rounder with his contract at an end.  The facts alone are probably why this dolt made the tweet. 

If there is anyone that has an out, in their control, for wherever they want, it's Burns.  We can control that destiny and get value for it up to the trade deadline.  

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16 minutes ago, saX man said:

To be honest, it makes a lot of sense.  We don't really have the room for him and he's going to want quite a contract.  It puts us in position to trade him to a place that can instantly sign him long term.  

Top pass rushers garner a lot of value---what do you feel would be the destination and comp?

Me:

Baltimore for a minimum 2023 1st, 4th, 2024 2nd

If Jamal Adams as a safety can get 2 firsts a 3rd and a player why can’t Burns get the same?

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