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What I'd like to see for the rest of the year


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As I look ahead to 2023, my goal is to optimize our chances for the #1 pick without compromising the opportunity to build a perennial contender and still make the 2022 season watchable. How?

1. Don't trade good players away without a ransom. We need the foundations of a team for the future. Unless the player has no future with us, hold onto them. It will make this year more watchable too. Imagine how horrible this team would be without McCaffrey. 

2. Play some of the young guys especially in places without a clear cut veteran presence. I'm looking at you, Terrace Marshall Jr. Or even players like Cade Mays or Brandon Smith especially as first man up with any injuries. We have to see what we have and develop them into future assets or figure out sooner that they're unlikely to be in our long term plans. It's a shame Corral is injured or this would be a great time to roll the dice with him.

3. Play aggressive as hell (basically the opposite of the Rams game). I'm talking fake punts left and right, go for every 4th and short, suicide blitzes, let it fly downfield. Probably more likely to make us lose but be way more fun to watch in the process. A win-win.

4. Keep the QB carousel going. Get Darnold on the field the moment he's healthy. It will at least add intrigue to see if he can do anything with a decent offensive line and healthy McCaffrey. 

What do you say? Anything you hope to see or that would make watching our games worth your precious time on Sundays?

 

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41 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

As I look ahead to 2023, my goal is to optimize our chances for the #1 pick without compromising the opportunity to build a perennial contender and still make the 2022 season watchable. How?

1. Don't trade good players away without a ransom. We need the foundations of a team for the future. Unless the player has no future with us, hold onto them. It will make this year more watchable too. Imagine how horrible this team would be without McCaffrey. 

2. Play some of the young guys especially in places without a clear cut veteran presence. I'm looking at you, Terrace Marshall Jr. Or even players like Cade Mays or Brandon Smith especially as first man up with any injuries. We have to see what we have and develop them into future assets or figure out sooner that they're unlikely to be in our long term plans. It's a shame Corral is injured or this would be a great time to roll the dice with him.

3. Play aggressive as hell (basically the opposite of the Rams game). I'm talking fake punts left and right, go for every 4th and short, suicide blitzes, let it fly downfield. Probably more likely to make us lose but be way more fun to watch in the process. A win-win.

4. Keep the QB carousel going. Get Darnold on the field the moment he's healthy. It will at least add intrigue to see if he can do anything with a decent offensive line and healthy McCaffrey. 

What do you say? Anything you hope to see or that would make watching our games worth your precious time on Sundays?

 

You're 100% right.

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18 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

We need to trade CMC though. I get that he’s a phenomenal talent. But you can find stud RBs on day 2 of the draft and they’re a lot cheaper. I’m not talking trading him for peanuts though I want 2 2s or a first 

1st and 3rd at minimum. The guy is young as hell and can literally carry an entire offense, if he goes to a contender it would likely be late first round pick, you aren’t going to find a game changer like CMC at pick 29-32. 1st and 3rd would be a steal.

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They should play Eason every game until the end of the season. 
 

There is no point in Sam, Baker or PJ.  Really no point in Eason but he is the only one you could argue there is something worth seeing that we don’t fully know about. 

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5 minutes ago, CRA said:

They should play Eason every game until the end of the season. 
 

There is no point in Sam, Baker or PJ.  Really no point in Eason but he is the only one you could argue there is something worth seeing that we don’t fully know about. 

Yeah I forgot about Eason. I think that goes to point 4. Just keep swapping qbs until you've thrown everything out there. I still want to see Sam play at least one game mostly cause he at least had that good stretch to start last year so maybe there's a chance he'll be better and we're paying him a bunch anyway, but I'd have a short leash and switch to Eason if he continues to show his poor play. We could start Eason next week at this point and keep playing him if he's any good and make Sam a moot point. But I figure he's going to have his lumps especially in this system.

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41 minutes ago, panthersgreenville said:

1st and 3rd at minimum. The guy is young as hell and can literally carry an entire offense, if he goes to a contender it would likely be late first round pick, you aren’t going to find a game changer like CMC at pick 29-32. 1st and 3rd would be a steal.

when has he done this

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1 hour ago, Aussie Tank said:

We need to trade CMC though. I get that he’s a phenomenal talent. But you can find stud RBs on day 2 of the draft and they’re a lot cheaper. I’m not talking trading him for peanuts though I want 2 2s or a first 

Half of McCaffrey's "salary" is money we already paid him whether he's on the team or not. Plus he's more than a rb; he's our leading receiver by a comfortable amount. Let's say we get those 2 2nds (probably late 2nds since only contending teams will want him). You could use the two 2nds to try to draft a new starting rb and WR 2 to replace his production. The combined salaries will probably be like 7 million. CMC's salary that we save in a trade is like $11.8 million. So we save $4 million and change. You want to replace CMC with a couple unproven rookies to have an extra $4 million; basically the amount of money it takes to pay Cam Erving? Is that really a worthwhile gamble? Even a late 1st, we're talking players like Clyde Edwards Helaire or Josh Jacobs and 1st round salaries are more, so probably saving $7 million. You'd rather have Edwards-Helaire + $7 million or McCaffrey? $7 million nets you a decent starter at a less valued position like safety or linebacker. Probably a lot easier to have a smaller drop-off at those positions with a cheap veteran or mid round draft pick than replacing McCaffrey with even a 1st. To me, I see a route to contention quickly with a top rookie qb, good new coach and McCaffrey. I have a much tougher time seeing that with the above minus CMC plus Donta Foreman or a rookie rb.

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