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15 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Can you share these? Ive looked at a lot of his highlights and im seeing him just hitting wide open targets. I did a light write up in one of these threads comaring Stroud, Young and Levis in arm talent... Stroud's WR average almost 3.5 yards of seperation... thats insane....

There’s a couple of factors to take into the yards per separation…

1. Ohio State’s OL is elite and they give Stroud ALL DAY to throw the ball, because of that, OSU runs a ton of deep routes.

2. Because OSU runs a ton of deep routes, their wide outs will ultimately create more separation, the longer the route and the longer the overall time of the play, the more likely it is that separation will occur… college DB’s just aren’t good enough to consistently cover for long periods of time.

3. The result is that Stroud’s adjusted yards per attempt is 13.0 yards per attempt, the second highest total since 1956.

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5 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

There’s a couple of factors to take into the yards per separation…

1. Ohio State’s OL is elite and they give Stroud ALL DAY to throw the ball, because of that, OSU runs a ton of deep routes.

2. Because OSU runs a ton of deep routes, their wide outs will ultimately create more separation, the longer the route and the longer the overall time of the play, the more likely it is that separation will occur… college DB’s just aren’t good enough to consistently cover for long periods of time.

3. The result is that Stroud’s adjusted yards per attempt is 13.0 yards per attempt, the second highest total since 1956.

One positive I think for the OSU stigma

His average time to throw of 2.69 seconds through Week 5 of the college football season is nearly a half second faster than Fields' average at Ohio State

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I think Bryce Young is the best QB in the draft and the best prospect at QB since Lawrence. His height and weight are a concern. However, his processing, pocket awareness, accuracy, and toughness against the best level of competition you can play against outside the NFL, the SEC, speaks volumes. 

The problem with Ohio State is I've seen Cardale Jones, Dwayne Haskins (threw 50 TDs his last year at OSU), Justin Fields throw for 40 plus TDs and complete 70% of their passes, then look completely inept and unprepared for the NFL. There is an overwhelming advantage that OSU has at the skill positions that makes it hard to evaluate their QBs. 

I say pull the trigger on Young and continue to invest in the Oline. 

 

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If you look past the size BY is the clear cut #1. He’s the best QB in this class and it’s not really close. His size is a valid concern but I’d grab the best true QB and take my chances. Others would grab the best blend of physical and playing the position and that’s okay too. Worked out well for the Bills. Will be interesting to see which way the FO goes 

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33 minutes ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

No Ohio State QBs, only draft SEC QBs who face NFL caliber defenses most of there college career 

 

 


So you would be a no on Josh Allen, Herbert, Jackson, and Mahomes?

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I think for Stroud, it’s obvious that he benefits from Ohio State’s system… and there’s going to be some things that just aren’t on tape that a GM is going to have to hope that Stroud can do… hit the underneath routes, use his legs in the open field, fit passes into tighter windows, etc… there’s a lot of questions.

However, Kevin Wilson has said that Stroud is the smartest QB that he’s coached since Sam Bradford (at Oklahoma), if anyone can break the chain of poor OSU QB’s, I think it’s Stroud.

It’s just a risk that you have to be willing to take… and there’s risks with every single one of the QB’s that will be in the 2023 draft.

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1 minute ago, Catsfan69 said:

They all scare me. 

I see zero Manning Roethlisberger Elway,Marino Montana Young Brady in this draft.

No Mahomes Allen Wilson Wilson Herbert Aikman Staubach 

This is bullchit. We are going to get the number one pick and there's nobody worth taking.

I get your point, but very few of these QBs were seen as number 1 when the were in the draft. 

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