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Panthers win Sunday…1st place in the South


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I’m just glad we fired Rhule when we did. If he had fuged up and won one of these last two games there’s no way Tepper would have fired him being a game out of the playoffs. Worse yet if he made the playoffs at 7-10 or something he would have gotten probably two more years. 

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1 hour ago, PghPanther said:

Panthers will figure out a way to win 5 to 7 games this year............miss any playoffs of course and as a result of finishing in the bottom half of the middle of the league thus missing out on the tanking draft picks.

.......and as a result, risk repeating that possible fate again and again. 

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Only this time it will be much worse because fitt will turn have no choice but to mortgage our future to move up in the draft and take a QB, get used to the idea of not having a first round pick in 2024, because if we win enough to fall in the top 10 or so, that’s exactly what is going to happen. 

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19 minutes ago, UpstatePantherfan said:

I agree. The thing that concerns me the most is if we fall to say pick 10 or 12, Fitt will mortgage our future and move up in the draft to get a QB all because we won 7 or 8 games when we could have just tanked, kept all our future draft picks and pick any QB that we wanted to pick.

Tank with ten games left? Ten games out of 17 so more then half you expect professionals to go out there and risk losing their job by underperforming to satisfy a losing mentality lol you sound like my 14 year old son. That’s not realistic we could draft Hooker 10th overall and he becomes the best qb in this draft you never know how a player will develop. How many top picked qbs picked 1 picked 2 or picked  3rd overall are dominating in the league right now do you have a clue?

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56 minutes ago, Rastlet said:

We won 1 game against a collapsing Tampa Bay. Let's pump the brakes a minute. It's as if everyone has forgotten all the other games we played this year. The tank is still on.

Cleveland misses a 58 yard field goal on the road and things go a little different week 2, we're 4-3 ahead of Atlanta.

 

Not saying that were even good, but I don't think we're much worse then Atlanta or TB

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If I told you at the beginning of the year we would get to both

A) Fire Matt Rhule and

B) Win the division

Would you guys have said no to that to start the season? We're y'all just ready to tank week 1? 

If we can get a home playoff game, AND find our next QB in the draft, even if it means trading up, the franchise will have taken 3 giant steps forward this year. 

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17 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Great! First round exit in the Playoffs, mid as can be Draft spot, still no elite QB, and more of the same next season. It's the Panthers way! Mid for life!

four back to back seasons of moral victories and fans still don’t get it yet

on rival boards they’re literally laughing at us for throwing away a tank and are ecstatic about it…we only come up over there with worries of landing stroud or young, we are irrelevant, falcons fans don’t even care to win this game, lol

tepper has deprived this fabbase so much that a 12% chance of one and done playoffs at 2-5 vs handicap teams in a putrid division has brought super bowl levels of excitement to casual fans

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6 hours ago, Rastlet said:

We won 1 game against a collapsing Tampa Bay. Let's pump the brakes a minute. It's as if everyone has forgotten all the other games we played this year. The tank is still on.

ya guys don't get excited about the team you root for for entertainment purposes only having a shot to win a game and become first place in their division. pump the breaks.

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13 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Literally the worst division of all time. Panthers were 1st overall in every mock draft 5 days ago... and they might be in a playoff slot by midseason.

 

13 hours ago, saX man said:

Yup. That’s not hyperbole. This may be the worst division in history, definitely worst since they made it 8. 

2020 NFC east was pretty brutal.....

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