Rams Offering Two (Future) Firsts for Burns

[Killah_Ray]

2 minutes ago, KyaKona said:

 

This would presumably give us more leverage…

[JawnyBlaze]

Goodness if Chubb is worth “at least” a current first, Burns is worth more than that. Significantly more than a couple firsts a few years down the road. 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

That's a simplistic way of looking at this.  

The whole “a 1st in two years is worth a 3rd this year” is the absolute dumbest way to value picks ever. I hate it and it’s absolutely illogical. I know teams use this scale but it makes no sense. Cause come 2025 that logic goes completely out the window and suddenly that pick is worth multiple future 1sts.

[NJPanthers12]

Just beyond dumb and truly is a fireable offense if Fitterer doesn’t pull the trigger  on this deal.

[Killah_Ray]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

That's a simplistic way of looking at this.  

I swear that one win against Tampa gave a lot of the fanbase a false notion that we’re only a player or two away. We need to finally complete the rebuild we’ve been avoiding since Cam’s shoulder went to poo…

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Goodness if Chubb is worth “at least” a current first, Burns is worth more than that. Significantly more than a couple firsts a few years down the road. 

Could be but you need a buyer. Rams are the only offer we've heard about offering 1sts. 

[JawnyBlaze]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Could be but you need a buyer. Rams are the only offer we've heard about offering 1sts. 

For sure. Which is why we shouldn’t trade him. 

[CRA]

21 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

All this "but it's only worth ... " people need to go take a nap. We're not competing this year. We're not competing next year. But yeahhhh, let's overpay Burns (which we will) and then not even care about having two first round picks in 2024 and two first round picks in 2025. No one wants first round picks! You never get good players in the first round!

 

Yep. 

A first round in 2025 is worth a first round pick in 2025.   Same for a 2024.   It's a first round pick and it carries that value in 2024.

It's worth less to someone else today....because most are trying to win now or in the immediate future.  So yeah, it's not worth much to the Rams.  Right now is their moment.  That's not us.  Future picks in all honesty shouldn't hold the same value on all teams.  Because they aren't all in the same place. We should be focused on building something new. 

And I don't care to start off the next new HC era by drastically overpaying a one dimensional DE as the cornerstone of a defense.  Especially when the pass rushing specialist isn't actually a monster at the one thing he is noted for. 

 

[ImaginaryKev]

The fact that a team like Rams, who rely heavily on star power over high draft picks, offered two firsts for Burns is proof we should not trade Burns. 

I mean it says something that all these teams seem to be interested in our best players, might be a good idea to keep them since you need good players to support a QB like Bryce Young

[ImaginaryKev]

Also the nitpicking over Burns "getting washed out against the run" shows some of yall are either impatient (he's only 24) or you can't spot talent, it's truly incredible

Being hyper critical over your young faces of the franchise seems to pass for a personality here, it's weird

[Brooklyn 3.0]

3 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

The fact that a team like Rams, who rely heavily on star power over high draft picks, offered two firsts for Burns is proof we should not trade Burns. 

I mean it says something that all these teams seem to be interested in our best players, might be a good idea to keep them since you need good players to support a QB like Bryce Young

Or, the Rams are stupid. No one else is offering a 1st because he's not worth a first to them ... and they are offering TWO firsts.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Brooklyn 3.0

[1of10Charnatives]

What's tempting about this deal is the probability that the Rams may be a dumpster fire by the time those picks hit. They sold out hard to get that SB win, and now they're mortgaging their future to keep that window open if at all possible. Odds are very high that leads to a hard crash in a couple years. 

Tempting.

Very tempting.

[TheMostInterestingMan]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Yep. 

A first round in 2025 is worth a first round pick in 2025.   Same for a 2024.   It's a first round pick and it carries that value in 2024.

It's worth less to someone else today....because most are trying to win now or in the immediate future.  So yeah, it's not worth much to the Rams.  Right now is their moment.  That's not us.  Future picks in all honesty shouldn't hold the same value on all teams.  Because they aren't all in the same place. We should be focused on building something new. 

And I don't care to start off the next new HC era by drastically overpaying a one dimensional DE as the cornerstone of a defense.  Especially when the pass rushing specialist isn't actually a monster at the one thing he is noted for. 

 

I’m with you completely on the picks and I’m definitely in the camp of trading Burns for two 1sts. And I love Burns, but I don’t even see him as our most important defensive player of defense. For me, Derrick Browns development this year along with an elite Jaycee when he’s healthy and Chinn back in the role that nearly made him rookie of the year are arguably all bigger components. Burns is great at what he does. But with where our team is currently at, this trade feels obvious. 

[ImaginaryKev]

1 minute ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Or, the Rams are stupid. No one else is offering a 1st because he's not worth a first to them ... and they are offering TWO firsts.

The Rams have a super bowl ring currently, maybe they can spot talent better than a message board full of f150s