Trey Lance?

[YourLastThought]

10 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

He barely played last year, but in 2 games as a starter and another playing part of the game, he was 58% completion for 603 yards, 5 TDs, 2 INTs, with another 168 yards rushing and a TD on the ground.

That's not terrible for a guy who didn't play his last year in college due to D2 shutting down for Covid and was always going to be a bit of a developmental prospect to begin with.

Then this year you can't count that first game that he played as it was in a literal monsoon and then he got hurt after going 2 for 3 in his second game of the year.

I agree those stats are definitely not bad for a rookie with limited playing time the year before due to COVID. He could be a good project if gotten for something decent. Someone on here made it sound as if he was abysmal in his playing time but those stats are absolutely something worth working with.

 

 

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How many games did it take Purdy to look good in Shanahan's offense?

Not really a fair way to look at it

Purdy came into the league with significantly more experience at a higher level than Lance ever did.  Lance played what, 1 year of college football and then his junior year was cancelled and he went into the draft.

He didn't really look bad last year, he put up some solid numbers for a rookie who hadn't played football in 2 years and only had 1 season as a starter at D2.

And again, his game this year just doesn't count for anything as it was an actual monsoon out there, nobody could do anything in the game on either side.

[PleaseCutStewart]

If they are willing to do us a favor and give him away for a 4th round draft pick with CMC crushing it for them, I'll bite. I really liked him coming out of college and honestly think if he was the eagles QB, he would be putting up similar stats to Hurts. Lance definitely will rely on having a scheme that fits his traits - not sure we have a competent coaching staff for him..

[LinvilleGorge]

Lance is likely just an outright bust.

[tukafan21]

If we don't make a move for another QB before we're up with the Niners late 3rd round pick, and he was available in this draft at that point, I would 100% take him for that cost and I think anyone else here would as well.

So for say an additional 4th next year, I think that would be a cost I'd be willing to pay to see what he might be.

[AggieLean]

Nah.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

Not really a fair way to look at it

Purdy came into the league with significantly more experience at a higher level than Lance ever did.  Lance played what, 1 year of college football and then his junior year was cancelled and he went into the draft.

He didn't really look bad last year, he put up some solid numbers for a rookie who hadn't played football in 2 years and only had 1 season as a starter at D2.

And again, his game this year just doesn't count for anything as it was an actual monsoon out there, nobody could do anything in the game on either side.

In this hypothetical scenario, were talking about a team with a very quarterback friendly scheme who drafted a guy #3 overall (and traded significant resources to do so) giving up on that guy in his third season (even when one was injury shortened) in favor of sticking with 1) a guy taken last in the draft and 2) Jimmy Garoppolo.

If that doesn't scream "buyer beware", I'm not sure what would.

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Lance is likely just an outright bust.

Based on what?

[ForJimmy]

I liked Lance coming out and the Niners were willing to give up Jimmy G for him. I just don’t want another QB that some other team isn’t interested in anymore. We just need to draft one.  

[tukafan21]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

In this hypothetical scenario, were talking about a team with a very quarterback friendly scheme who drafted a guy #3 overall (and traded significant resources to do so) giving up on that guy in his third season (even when one was injury shortened) in favor of sticking with 1) a guy taken last in the draft and 2) Jimmy Garoppolo.

If that doesn't scream "buyer beware", I'm not sure what would.

Not at all

Jimmy was always going to be leaving after this year, no matter what else happened.

Beyond that, it's not giving up on a guy that was taken with the last pick of the draft, it's getting something in return while you can for a player with potential because someone else unexpectedly came from nowhere to look amazing.

Say the Patriots don't win that first SB with Brady but lost in the conference championship game or even lost the SB.  

Do you really think they would have moved on from him the next year?

To me it's more them recognizing that they can get some assets in return while Lance still has value, not giving up on him in any means. 

It's not like Purdy has just looked average, he's looked amazing for a rookie, draft position aside.  He's earned that job short of anything other than them signing Brady in the offseason which I think they very well still might do anyways.  And if that happens, there is even less of a reason for them to keep Lance and hurt his future trade value any further.

Edited January 15, 2023 by tukafan21

[*FreeFua*]

Minus a couple of games the kid hasn’t played football in 3 years…

Combine that with the fact he’s still raw, Trey has a massive uphill battle to turn his career around 

[tukafan21]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I liked Lance coming out and the Niners were willing to give up Jimmy G for him. I just don’t want another QB that some other team isn’t interested in anymore. We just need to draft one.  

Again, this to me just doesn't make sense and a couple people are saying it.

In what world is it them not being interested anymore in Lance?  This isn't a Zach Wilson situation by any means.

He looked decent in his limited playing time given him having only played one year in D2 and not having played at all the year before being drafted.  He's shown nothing to say he is more likely to be a bust than not and we're not talking about giving up early round picks for him either.

The Niners know they have a window to win right now, what good does it do them to sit on a backup QB for another year or two and lose him for nothing when they could draft some players who can help them right now?

[Wolfcop]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How many games did it take Purdy to look good in Shanahan's offense?

Some QBs blossom faster than others. Trey Lance did not have Christian McCaffrey, either. I'm not saying he is definitely destined for greatness, but he may be. There have been many QBs to have it click for them a little later. 

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Not at all

Jimmy was always going to be leaving after this year, no matter what else happened.

Beyond that, it's not giving up on a guy that was taken with the last pick of the draft, it's getting something in return while you can for a player with potential because someone else unexpectedly came from nowhere to look amazing.

Say the Patriots don't win that first SB with Brady but lost in the conference championship game or even lost the SB.  

Do you really think they would have moved on from him the next year?

To me it's more them recognizing that they can get some assets in return while Lance still has value, not giving up on him in any means. 

It's not like Purdy has just looked average, he's looked amazing for a rookie, draft position aside.  He's earned that job short of anything other than them signing Brady in the offseason which I think they very well still might do anyways.  And if that happens, there is even less of a reason for them to keep Lance and hurt his future trade value any further.

I'm not that sold on Purdy just yet, but logically speaking, your own statements about him should actually serve as a huge red flag regarding Lance.