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New PFT article on what the Saints want for Payton
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Quoted rom one of the many Bryce threads... Wanted to reply to this, but since my answer turned into a go route (i.e. went long) I thought I'd put it in a separate thread. So here's my take on the names mentioned above (and others) ... Lance was a prototypical "take an athlete and teach him to play quarterback" example who now serves as an example of why that's a bad idea. Worth remembering that Lance was given to a coach heralded as a QB guru with a friendly system. In the end though, even that potentially ideal situation wasn't enough. And the fact those events were followed up by said guru taking his team to the Super Bowl with a QB who went undrafted helps bolster the folly.of that approach. But then you have Wilson, an actual quarterback with off the charts passing skill. This guy's sure to succeed, right? Well...wrong, which demonstrates that even the right skill set doesn't guarantee success. Could Wilson have succeeded in a better situation under better coaching? Unknown, but it's a question I find myself asking a lot. (See also: Levis, Will) Rosen falls into the Ryan Leaf / Ryan Mallet category, i.e. don't hand the keys to your billion dollar franchise over to a dickhead. Character matters, and not strictly in the 'upright citizen vs thuggish criminal ' way. (I could add maybe don't draft guys with the first name 'Ryan' unless they went to Harvard, and even then only in the 7th round) Darnold is another guy who likely could have benefited from a better situation / coaching (see also Carr: David). Heck, it also might have helped to send him to The Wizard and have him ask for "da noiv", or perhaps to Egon Spengler and company to chase away any and all "ghosts". Sending him to Matt Rhule? 😬 Yeah...definitely not the answer 😕 But hey, at least he's doing better now. (ttill playoff time, anyway) Mind you, Drew Brees does serve as proof that guys who land in less than ideal - or just flat out lousy - situations early on can indeed resurrect their careers later on in better surroundings. Will Darnold go that far? Unknown, but we do know it's possible. Kenny Pickett (also known by the X-Men moniker 'Littlehand') is that proverbial great college quarterback who for one reason or another just doesn't cut it in the pros. (gotta say, feels like the past several drafts have put forth a lot of that particular QB archetype) Mac Jones could arguably carry this label as well, though I'm waiting to see how things play out in San Francisco. For now, Jones might be a better example of why you should always be cautious and skeptical of guys from certain systems. Justin Fields is a cell in that spreadsheet column, as is Kyler Murray. Now I'm sure someone here will mention another certain quarterback we're all quite familiar with as a prime example of this subset too 😐 Fair point, though I think he, Murray and Tagovailoa work better under the heading of "Davids". What's a David? It's a guy you send to battle against a "Goliath". And by all means, bet on that guy if he's a shepherd. If he's a quarterback, though? 🤔 Root for him, encourage him, appreciate his courage and be inspired by him... ...but don't draft him. The return on investment might be a great story, but it's not likely to be one that involves championships and rings. ... Bottom Line? You've no doubt heard this saying "this ain't rocket science". Well, I'd argue saying "this ain't quarterback evaluation" might truly make a better negative metaphorical comparison. At least with rocket science, it's science. You're working with things that have some level of consistency, even predictability. Stuff like chemistry, physics, metallurgy, etc. Human beings? Specifically young male athletes with massive amounts of ego and testosterone who've been heavily catered to a lot of their lives and have now been handed large sums money and a portal to fame... Yeah, good luck with thatb😖 Heck, you might get better odds buying a Powerball ticket, or perhaps playing a roulette wheel at a Vegas casino. (gambling involves risk; please play responsibility. for help with gambling addiction call the Gambling Hotline at 1-800-522-4700) -
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The sad part is Williams led the league in rushing tds as well with like 18 and didn't even make the pro bowl that season. Too bad it all ended in Jake's epic collapse -
Yeah. He talked about using him that way and I forget the term. Maybe nickel LB? Ike have to watch it again. If you look at the video it is maybe 2/3 through where talks about him and also CSW.
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