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Why is mediocrity so attractive?

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18 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I’d rather go 0-17 next year with a new HC that will grow and improve than 7-10 for the next five years before we start looking for another HC.  I’ve seen enough of what he’s done in the past here as DC, secondary coach and HC this year to know that the chances of him all of a sudden learning how to put games away are slim to none. Not to mention keeping Holcomb as DC if he stays is its own recipe for disaster. 

You don't know a new head coach will grow and improve. If you look at history there are a lot more guys who have never been head coaches before who flamed out in their first head coaching job. That includes the GOAT- Belichick. No the chances for success with a brand new hire with no HC experience is worse than a known entity. So again your philosophy is likely to give up another loser like Rhule versus a proven winner. I will take Reich or Wilkes. And I heard Steichen didn't interview well. He is likely in over his head 

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1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

I want what's best for the team not what's fair to Wilks or Fitts or anyone else. They're not 10 years old, they will be ok.

If you do not treat people with the respect they have earned as a member of the Panthers organization it is not best for the team. You lose respect from players, fans, and anyone that follows the team. 

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2 hours ago, Stuart Smith said:

If you do not treat people with the respect they have earned as a member of the Panthers organization it is not best for the team. You lose respect from players, fans, and anyone that follows the team. 

If hurt feelings are more important than winning then your team will suck like the Panthers have and do. You think the Patriots ever gave sh*t about peoples feelings? lol

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8 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

If hurt feelings are more important than winning then your team will suck like the Panthers have and do. You think the Patriots ever gave sh*t about peoples feelings? lol

It is a business, I get that. Decisions have to be made that are unpleasant. Players and coaches know that. There is still a room to make these decisions with respect. 

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Just now, Stuart Smith said:

It is a business, I get that. Decisions have to be made that are unpleasant. Players and coaches know that. There is still a room to make these decisions with respect. 

Sure, no need to be disrespectful but business is business. They want to stay employed here? Win playoff games.

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OP there are different types of 6-6. 
 

Going 6-6 with an underachieving roster is different than pulling a team out of an accelerating nose dive, pretty much against anyone’s expectations. That wasn’t mediocrity. It was closer to great. 

Could he do as impressive of a job if the talent was better, tne bar was higher, etc. And he had his staff and got to stand on his own foundation from the beginning? Can’t say without seeing it. 

I don’t expect him to be hired but people are really undervaluing the job he did. 

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On 1/24/2023 at 7:56 PM, stan786 said:

He looked pretty good without AJB last year when Hurts wasn't thought to be all that special, he looked great with the chargers.  But the most offensive thing stated here is thinking Miles Sanders is a top 10 RB.

At least he changed it from top 5 when he posted that in another thread

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Too many years of coaches treating the franchise like a big family instead of a business. Now you have a locker room that’s never won anything making demands about coaches. Everybody in that building is fat and happy with being avg at best as long as the checks keep coming 

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