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TLGPanthersFan Grand Master

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3 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Why add the one game against the Saints once everything was decided. That wasn't a crucial game.  The games that counted were his first five. Go back and recalculate your math. In 4 of those 5 his rating was over 100 and combined it was  105. 

That is stupid. Also QBR is a stupid, useless stat that should be gotten rid. 
 

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1 minute ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

That is stupid. Also QBR is a stupid, useless stat that should be gotten rid. 
 

QBR is like judging defenses by total yards surrendered. There are surely other measures and some might be superior but it gives us a comparison level that has become standard in the NFL.

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4 hours ago, panthers55 said:

You have an agenda about Darnold that is obvious so honestly your analysis is flawed by your bias. Any reasonable person clearly saw the improvement which has been acknowledged by most qb watchers. So responding back as I have in the past is wasted. You aren't going to change your mind so I won't bother. Just know your opinion is not shared by most knowledgeable observers.

Cool.  I notice you opted to not respond to the 2 stats I shared that countered your obviously flawed analysis that Sam Darnold was vastly improved in 2022.   

Sam Darnold had a window with an improved TD and INT %.  That's it.  That's the only argument.  And it requires you to ignore everything else.  Outside of that he wasn't even accounting for average offensive production for a NFL QB.   Not yards.  Not passing TDs.  He was accountable for below average offensive production.  Then on top of that lower-than-average offensive production, he had a lower completion % and was putting the ball on the ground at a higher rate (even for Sam who has been horrific at that his entire career dating back to college). 

Sam Darnold is a bad QB.  If knowledgeable observers think Sam Darnold is a good QB? Or that he showed real growth?   Well, I'll let that statement speak for itself. 

Pretty sure last offseason we went at it too.  You were on your soapbox claiming superior knowledge as I called out what was obviously going to happen with the pairing of Matt Rhule and Ben McAdoo.  And it went exactly as I called it.   

Now, me saying Sam Darnold is bad and calling the 2022 Matt Rhule correctly doesn't actually make me smart.  It just means I can see and state the obvious.  

and I was right in 2021 too when folks were pimping Sam after a couple games.  It was fools gold then too.  Bad Sam was clearly still there.   Even old Jet fanboys like Mike Greenburg could see it.  They tried to warn folks.  And people were arguing the same thing you are now.  

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6 minutes ago, travisura said:

Darnold is going into his 6th year. We know what he is, and what he is not. I cannot believe that folks *STILL* think he's the guy.

Kinda makes you wonder how many times some of us put our hands on the hot stove as kids.

Or, as that famous philosopher George Bush once said (or stumbled through), "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

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19 minutes ago, travisura said:

Darnold is going into his 6th year. We know what he is, and what he is not. I cannot believe that folks *STILL* think he's the guy.

If the team was bringing in a rookie and keeping Corral for further development, they'd still need a reliable vet in the mix.  Darnold simply isn't that guy unless the Panthers plan on going with a run heavy offense and losing lots of games.

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

Cool.  I notice you opted to not respond to the 2 stats I shared that countered your obviously flawed analysis that Sam Darnold was vastly improved in 2022.   

Sam Darnold had a window with an improved TD and INT %.  That's it.  That's the only argument.  And it requires you to ignore everything else.  Outside of that he wasn't even accounting for average offensive production for a NFL QB.   Not yards.  Not passing TDs.  He was accountable for below average offensive production.  Then on top of that lower-than-average offensive production, he had a lower completion % and was putting the ball on the ground at a higher rate (even for Sam who has been horrific at that his entire career dating back to college). 

Sam Darnold is a bad QB.  If knowledgeable observers think Sam Darnold is a good QB? Or that he showed real growth?   Well, I'll let that statement speak for itself. 

Pretty sure last offseason we went at it too.  You were on your soapbox claiming superior knowledge as I called out what was obviously going to happen with the pairing of Matt Rhule and Ben McAdoo.  And it went exactly as I called it.   

Now, me saying Sam Darnold is bad and calling the 2022 Matt Rhule correctly doesn't actually make me smart.  It just means I can see and state the obvious.  

and I was right in 2021 too when folks were pimping Sam after a couple games.  It was fools gold then too.  Bad Sam was clearly still there.   Even old Jet fanboys like Mike Greenburg could see it.  They tried to warn folks.  And people were arguing the same thing you are now.  

And I will ignore you again. Tell me something new you haven't said over and over ad nauseum. 

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Why are people down on Darnold?

 

He actually looked like a decent bridge QB after we fired Rhule. He can be the bridge QB until the rookie QB develops.

 

 

I've often wondered why myself. I admit I have kicked some sand on the guy a few times when he was down.  But the depth of the disgust some feel towards the man has me wondering if he disparaged their mother in some manner. 

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