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Bears spoke to 3 teams at the combine about the first overall pick: know they can get 1sts in 2024 and 2025


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2 minutes ago, Varking said:

I literally advocate for trading up to number 1 for CJ Stroud in every thread. I’m just pointing out the notion that only Josh Allen improved his accuracy from college to the pros is inaccurate. Look at my post history. I’ve been leading the CJ bandwagon since like October. 

Do you think AR = Josh Allen?  Who else is AR?  Cam?  
 

BTW…one thing we have never seen is a run heavy QB surviving very long…even Cam.  Risky proposition 

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If I am not mistaken, they met with hooker twice.  That could mean that he is a fallback, or he is a sleeper hidden behind his age and injury.

You have to look at it this way:  Hooker plus this year's second and a first in 2024 and 2025  or Stroud? (for example)

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Do you think AR = Josh Allen?  Who else is AR?  Cam?  

No I don’t think AR = Cam or AR = Josh Allen. I don’t think there’s a good comp for AR. We’ve never had a dude at this size at QB as agile, quick or explosive, with a rocket for an arm, with as few starts in college as AR. Comps are usually silly but the Cam and Allen comps for AR are lazy to me. 

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Look. If the panthers brain trust thinks honey is the guy, I’m fine with it 

I just think. Cj. Bryce and Ar are special 

thwre is something about cj that bothers me. Not sure why as I’m a fan 

anybody but Levis ls. The gut did nothing in comparison liege and couldn’t make it at Penn state 

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3 minutes ago, Varking said:

No I don’t think AR = Cam or AR = Josh Allen. I don’t think there’s a good comp for AR. We’ve never had a dude at this size at QB as agile, quick or explosive, with a rocket for an arm, with as few starts in college as AR. Comps are usually silly but the Cam and Allen comps for AR are lazy to me. 

He is an amazing athlete.  Agree.

We are on record you want to trade up to #1 with what that will cost for CJ Stroud,  right?

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

If I am not mistaken, they met with hooker twice.  That could mean that he is a fallback, or he is a sleeper hidden behind his age and injury.

You have to look at it this way:  Hooker plus this year's second and a first in 2024 and 2025  or Stroud? (for example)

Could be smoke with all this move up talk and we move back and take Hooker later in the first round.  Perhaps we could move back up into the back end of the first round and take him there, taking BPA at #9.  Either of those scenarios I like better than moving up. I mean, everyone wants a rookie QB this year, right?  So they should be happy drafting Hooker.

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With a staff that we've assembled, I'd be okay with trading up to #3 and getting whoever falls. That way we're - theoretically - giving up less than what San Fran gave to Miami (1st round swap from 3 to 12, a '22 first and 3rd , and a '23 first.

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3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

He is an amazing athlete.  Agree.

We are on record you want to trade up to #1 with what that will cost for CJ Stroud,  right?

Yes absolutely. I’ve pounded the table for Stroud since October. I would rather move up to 1 and get our guy than move to 3-5 and HOPE he falls. 

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Yes absolutely. I’ve pounded the table for Stroud since October. I would rather move up to 1 and get our guy than move to 3-5 and HOPE he falls. 

I like your conviction man.  Personally I am not giving 3 firsts for any 1 guy unless it’s a Manning

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