Breaking: Lamar Jackson is available as Raven's have placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on him.

[jtm]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know if we "all know that" but if you assume that's true, that'd make him a pretty bad teammate.

We'll never know but I'd take Lamar all day long and we are instantly a playoff team and maybe more with him as our starter.  Fans want a big move and here's the big move.

[Seltzer]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

And then all the Ravens have to do is match the deal.

Yep.  That is a legit concern too, especially since the negotiations with Watson last year affected other aspects of our free agent signings.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, jtm said:

We'll never know but I'd take Lamar all day long and we are instantly a playoff team and maybe more with him as our starter.  Fans want a big move and here's the big move.

I don't give a sh-t about "the big move".

Teams that win make the smart move.

This isn't it.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What if you give him more than what the Ravens would offer which is reportedly 133 mil guaranteed?

You think Lamar is going to quit playing football if he doesn't get the Watson contract?

We would be foolish not to offer him more than what the Ravens will offer. Give him 190 fully guaranteed.

And again, all the Ravens have to do is match it.

That's how the franchise tag works.

[CanadianCat]

8 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

But Fitterer isn’t in a position to sit and hope someone falls to him that’s the problem here 

This whole things is a mess… again

I dont think its a mess. I think the team just needs to pick a plan and go after it - which they will. 

You either
A) got after a FA QB.
B) trade all the way to #1 or #3 and get your guy
C) Let the draft fall (I still suspect that AR15 falls) 

They will have a plan. Im sure that when they hired Reich they already knew what they wanted to do. 

[joemac]

10 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

But Fitterer isn’t in a position to sit and hope someone falls to him that’s the problem here 

This whole things is a mess… again

LOL how is this a mess?  Nothing has even happened yet, and all indications are saying we are going to be extremely aggressive to get our guy. 

[joemac]

8 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

True, but even the little hits from running add up. If you keep getting nicked for 1 HP damage on Run plays then you aren't going into the fight with a full pool of health in the passing game. Sooner or later you fail a saving throw and go down. 

Real life is not a JRPG

[CPcavedweller]

He has missed several games the last three seasons. If you could get full years out of him, every year, like a Peyton, Tom, Joe, Patrick, etc. then yeah, you pay him. If not, you don't give him guaranteed money that he's asking for. Guaranteed money is for guaranteed play and he hasn't been able to do that. 

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

I dont think its a mess. I think the team just needs to pick a plan and go after it - which they will. 

You either
A) got after a FA QB.
B) trade all the way to #1 or #3 and get your guy
C) Let the draft fall (I still suspect that AR15 falls) 

They will have a plan. Im sure that when they hired Reich they already knew what they wanted to do. 

Again, getting to 1 isn’t a for sure thing. There are no FA QB’s available that are the answer long term. Fitterer isn’t in a position to sit and wait come draft night 

I’m all for throwing picks at Chicago until they say yes because it’s time so don’t think I’m against any of this I’m just telling you the pickle we’re in and the pressure Fitterer is under to deliver 

[TheSpecialJuan]

  

[CPcavedweller]

3 minutes ago, joemac said:

LOL how is this a mess?  Nothing has even happened yet, and all indications are saying we are going to be extremely aggressive to get our guy. 

It's a mess because we are about to trade even more assets away for someone who may or may not be worthwhile. Add to that we may be trying to trade with a Conference foe who already has a QB and we could just be mortgaging our future to look up at them. We have a solid QB and can't add talent around them. 

That's the trade-off and why I'd rather trade down, stack talent, and work on getting enough picks to take Maye or Williams next year. You can stack, stack, stack talent on days 1 and 2 in this draft but we are going to avoid doing that to take a guy like Will Levis. 

I'd be good with Anthony Richardson, though not trading up much to get him, or Stroud. The recent history on teams who have traded up for QB's isn't pretty, at all. None of them since 2015 are on the team that drafted them. 

[CanadianCat]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Again, getting to 1 isn’t a for sure thing. There are no FA QB’s available that are the answer long term. Fitterer isn’t in a position to sit and wait come draft night 

I’m all for throwing picks at Chicago until they say yes because it’s time so don’t think I’m against any of this I’m just telling you the pickle we’re in and the pressure Fitterer is under to deliver 

Yeah I agree. I dont think Fitt is waiting till draft night to make a move. He needs to secure that plan WELL before the draft. 

[bigpoppa]

So if the Ravens decide to match the contract, does he have to sign it? I get that they can match what he agrees to with another team, but if they decide to match can't he just refuse to sign? This is assuming he is done with Baltimore and wants out.

[*FreeFua*]

Just now, CanadianCat said:

Yeah I agree. I dont think Fitt is waiting till draft night to make a move. He needs to secure that plan WELL before the draft. 

If we do end up at 1 I believe most of the mock trades floating around with pick compensation going to Chicago will seem very light versus what we actually give up