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Stroud + Smith-Njigba


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6 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i would flip Young and Stroud. Probably just me, but i think Stroud ends up being the more impressive overall candidate. 

And i'm with you in hoping the decision was already made. I feel like it's one of those things they know but they want to be sure of first. I think they believe that either Stroud or Young or even Richardson (to a lesser degree) would be worth the first overall, but i think someone impressed them enough to want to just go ahead and jump in. They saw/learned enough at the combine to say "we can NOT miss out on this guy."

That part is what is making me think it isn't Young.  You could make a case for the other 3 after the combine.  Honestly it looked like Stroud was the best pure passer (which I feel is what Reich wants) and AR of course stole the show.  The fact that the trade happened so quickly after the combine makes me think Stroud or maybe AR, unless they just really like Bryce Young's interviews?

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4 hours ago, shaq said:

Hear me out, in all these cases the QB is drafted a year before the WR. This year we grab Stroud and imagine if we somehow landed Marvin Harrison Jr next year, absolute pipe dream but fug that would be scary.

Gonna be impossible to do without a first in 24 and without a second in 25.

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4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That part is what is making me think it isn't Young.  You could make a case for the other 3 after the combine.  Honestly it looked like Stroud was the best pure passer (which I feel is what Reich wants) and AR of course stole the show.  The fact that the trade happened so quickly after the combine makes me think Stroud or maybe AR, unless they just really like Bryce Young's interviews?

same. i don't know how long or how much was packed into those interviews, but Young would have really had to have blown them away for him to overcome both Stroud and apparently AR.

Stroud's tape, plus combine performance has to have put him in the lead.

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1 minute ago, Eric4280 said:

Gonna be impossible to do without a first in 24 and without a second in 25.

It’s a hypothetical scenario, we all know we don’t have picks next year it’s not a logical plan it’s purely a dream hypothetical.

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22 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Even if Stroud is the pick, the way some people are talking and hyping him up, he'll never live up to what they're imagining/dreaming.

How do you mean? Like instant Mahomes and Super Bowl runs or something? I've seen one or two folks with extreme expectations but most seem to be pretty realistic. Myself I'm looking at the offense post CMC and Moore trades and I'm not overly optimistic in the short term. There's still plenty of offseason left but it's going to take us another year or two to get where we need to be built around our new QB1. But I feel very good about Stroud's abilities translating to the NFL. And in the off chance he isn't the pick I'd rather shoot for the stars and take Richardson than hope Young goes on to become one of very few outliers for his size at the position or take a risk on Levis in a trade down.

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5 hours ago, Puresteel55 said:

Burrow-Chase, Hurts-D. Smith, Tia-Waddle. Does having a receiver that a rookie QB is familiar with aid in development? It appears to be a trend.

JSN COULD be a legitimate WR1. Do we do what it takes to reunite Stroud- JSN. That’s assuming we take Stroud with the #1 pick, of course.

You must be new here.

There is no way to get JSN without trading Brian Burns or Jaycee Horn and he ain't worth that. 

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29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There's a bunch of folks setting themselves up for a letdown. It's far from a sure thing that Stroud is the pick.

It will be funny to see them exit stage left if this doesn't happen.

I will also have a good laugh at all the butthurt Stroud homers in our fanbase who are already establishing militant opinions about him.

IDC who we take between Stroud and Young. I think both have the potential to be franchise QB's. I am just glad we get to make this kind of choice again.

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32 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It will be funny to see them exit stage left if this doesn't happen.

I will also have a good laugh at all the butthurt Stroud homers in our fanbase who are already establishing militant opinions about him.

IDC who we take between Stroud and Young. I think both have the potential to be franchise QB's. I am just glad we get to make this kind of choice again.

I prefer Stroud, but I'm not gonna throw a sh-t fit if we pick someone else.

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34 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It will be funny to see them exit stage left if this doesn't happen.

I will also have a good laugh at all the butthurt Stroud homers in our fanbase who are already establishing militant opinions about him.

IDC who we take between Stroud and Young. I think both have the potential to be franchise QB's. I am just glad we get to make this kind of choice again.

I'm ok with any of the top 4.  I prefer Stroud, but I work in accounting and have zero scouting experience.  I'm more excited about what this staff can do with any young talented QB.  

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