Natalie Miller (aka Verge): per her sources, Panthers moved up to #1 to take Bryce Young

[rodeo]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Young is the best processor, but I would agree with Stroud being the best pure passer.

As far as arm strength, I've read more than one report that questions Young's deep ball, especially vs Stroud.

Stroud is the best pure passer with a clean pocket, worst pure passer (out of the top 4) under pressure.

[GOAT]

this new era of wanna be twitter talking heads that write for some unknown sports blog just throwing poo at the wall and seeing what sticks is so annoying.

"the sources I know say ____"

if it hits, they get to retweet and add to their rep.

if it misses? not a peep. Remember the Deshaun Watson crap from this account?

"my source says it'll be today guys!"

claiming their "source" says Bryce is going number one is a really safe bet. that poo will probably stick.

this person had us taking Joey Porter Jr. in their first mock of the year just FYI.

let's work together and stop giving these sort of accounts the attention and credit they desire.

we're all out here just guessing.

[TheRumGone]

Just now, rodeo said:

Stroud is the best pure passer with a clean pocket, worst pure passer (out of the top 4) under pressure.

Georgia game kinda shattered this. I’m sure there are stats backing this up but if that Georgia game is any indication on what he can do he has a high ceiling. I’m to the point where I literally don’t care who we decide between stroud and young though. Ill be excited with either.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, rodeo said:

Stroud is the best pure passer with a clean pocket, worst pure passer (out of the top 4) under pressure.

I've seen that said too.

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Stroud is the best pure passer with a clean pocket, worst pure passer (out of the top 4) under pressure.

He must have a much smaller sample size of being under pressure.  That OSU OL kept his pocket clean and he got the ball out fast.  

[travisura]

5 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

Same guy who had us taking a tackle at 9 before we moved up?

[OldhamA]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Young is the best processor, but I would agree with Stroud being the best pure passer.

As far as arm strength, I've read more than one report that questions Young's deep ball, especially vs Stroud.

It jumps out on film - his arm is NFL average. 

[stan786]

I’d argue Bryce has the highest ceiling and lowest floor of all the QBs. It’s fascinating.

I’ve been on record saying I’m not worried about his size, I think it’s overhyped on this board.

I’d be totally fine if we wanted to play it safe with Stroud who I think at min is Jared Goff and has some legit upside. That arm is gorgeous.

Bryce feels like a guy if he hits is going to be able to carry teams to success with his processing and pocket skills. I’m super intrigued.

[OldhamA]

11 minutes ago, Ivory Panther said:

Scott said & it had also been reported that they started the process when they got the combine on Tuesday. They met in Poles room and had several meeting during the combine. 

QBs threw at the combine on Saturday. Carolina started the process to trade for #1 on the Tuesday prior...If you still want to conclude they made the trade because of CJ throwing, that's on you.

Scott said at the podium again, he doesn't care as much about workouts for QBs. The tape is what they are concerned about...

Those who have eyes and hears know exactly who the pick is... 

I hope you've put your mortgage on it then if you're so confident. 

[TheRumGone]

Bryce does this poo on a regular basis. CJ has shown he CAN do it + he’s the best passer in this draft. I dunno man. Tough decision for the FO.

[SazmoRanger]

22 minutes ago, Captroop said:

I prefer Stroud, but enough people seem to think Young is a no brainer. That's not what the Huddle thinks, it's what analysts, former players and talking heads think. Believe me, the Huddle's talent evaluation factored exactly 0% into this thinking. If another team absolutely is head over heels for Young, then we have an enormous bargaining chip if we're threatening to pick him. Hell, we could even pull an Eli Manning and draft him at #1, and then trade him to Houston for the #2 pick plus plus.

 

There's a scenario where we wanted Richardson all along. We knew he wouldn't last until 9, and we ran the numbers and assessed that the net cost will be less to move down to 1 and back to 4 than to move from 9 to 4. I don't necessarily think that's the case, but if you believe any of the "Carolina loves Richardson" rumblings, it makes sense.

That’s kind of my point too. Why would the majority of people hold Young in the higher regard and yet we SUPPOSEDLY like Stroud better? I do feel like we like both Young and Stroud and would be fine with either in the end. Again, the Houston trade makes sense to me, but I feel we like Young a lot more than most fans want us to. 
 

You really think that we traded all the way up to 1 just to trade down to Indy at 4? We literally gave up what we did so we could have our option at QB. It “makes sense” to give up the draft capital and the only viable proven weapon on this offense to then trade down to 4? Houston, Raiders, Panthers, or Colts we’re going to trade up to number 1. We could’ve easily traded up to 3 with Arizona(and kept DJ) if one of the other teams made a deal with the Bears and guaranteed one of the big 3 QBs because Houston isn’t trading out of 2. So no, it makes absolutely no sense for us to trade up to 1 and then trade down to 4 with Indy. 

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, Ivory Panther said:

Scott said & it had also been reported that they started the process when they got the combine on Tuesday. They met in Poles room and had several meeting during the combine. 

QBs threw at the combine on Saturday. Carolina started the process to trade for #1 on the Tuesday prior...If you still want to conclude they made the trade because of CJ throwing, that's on you.

Scott said at the podium again, he doesn't care as much about workouts for QBs. The tape is what they are concerned about...

Those who have eyes and hears know exactly who the pick is... 

I'd be willing to bet Rich Eisen has more "eyes and ears" than anyone on this board, and he agrees the decision isn't made yet.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I agree he's the best pure passer in this draft, but it's 2023. Your QB needs to be able to run and escape pressure when need be. Stroud for the most part is just a pocket passer. This a new era of football you have to throw on the run and get outside the pocket.

Do you think Stroud has that ability to operate outside the pocket?

Scouting reports would tell you he's not going to scare anybody as a runner, but that yes he can operate "off platform".

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, stan786 said:

I’d argue Bryce has the highest ceiling and lowest floor of all the QBs. It’s fascinating.

I’ve been on record saying I’m not worried about his size, I think it’s overhyped on this board.

I’d be totally fine if we wanted to play it safe with Stroud who I think at min is Jared Goff and has some legit upside. That arm is gorgeous.

Bryce feels like a guy if he hits is going to be able to carry teams to success with his processing and pocket skills. I’m super intrigued.

The highest ceiling is clearly Richardson - he has the strongest arm, is the tallest, the heaviest and the fastest of the 'top 4' QBs. I've read Burrow comparisons for Stroud more than once - the combination of processing ability (not quite as good as Burrow), arm strength and accuracy (both better than Burrow) and just enough mobility.

If Bryce Young works out the comparison is obviously someone like Brees - although from the games I've seen Brees worked much more to structure than Young did in College - both are shorter than ideal, both have less than ideal arms, but both processed the game so quickly that they beat whatever defence you threw at them. 

The problem is that Young is even smaller than Brees - and Brees was one in a million. Do you expect lighting to strike twice?