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Albert Breer: Bryce Young scored 98 on his S2 teat

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1 minute ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Of course, it's only one small piece of the puzzle to his whole evaluation. But scoring highly is just more evidence to what you already knew about him. What if he actually bombed the S2 score but his tape is excellent? Does the S2 test have more significance now that it's negative? just asking. 

IMO, if he had been taking the test as much as he has and bombed it, that would be more alarming than the reward of doing well on it. Repeated exposure on most things should always lead to increased scores/values.

To your question - if he looked great on tape and scored terrible on the s2, I wouldn't put much consideration into the s2. Most of these cognitive/intelligence tests sports use just don't really align with the actual sport IMO. I do think the s2 has way more usefulness than the Wonderlic, but there are way too many variables on the football field for any type of cognitive test to factor in. The s2 should be low on the importance scale and I would hope that a poor score on the s2 would be obvious on tape, because the assumption would be that they are not making smart throws.

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Nobody is knocking Bryce for practicing it. But you also can’t say practicing something doesn’t improve your performance in reaction times. Of course it does. The more you practice the more you’re able to react without thinking.  Think of reaction based video games, the more you play then the better you get, especially when it’s strictly based on reaction time.
 

Is it a very good sign that he scored so well? Of course!  Does the fact he’s been practicing since high school skew the context of comparing his score against anyone else who took the test? Of course it does. 

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25 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Man do yall even watch football...

 

How is he not good when Chicago just traded the #1 overall pick!

 

Obviously he's good at something. You judging this man when he had one of the worst rosters in the NFL for the past 2 years. Judge him when he gets talent around him. No other QB would have done any better with that supporting cast he had.

How is he not good when Chicago just traded the #1 overall pick!…you answered your own question 

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44 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

IMO, if he had been taking the test as much as he has and bombed it, that would be more alarming than the reward of doing well on it. Repeated exposure on most things should always lead to increased scores/values.

To your question - if he looked great on tape and scored terrible on the s2, I wouldn't put much consideration into the s2. Most of these cognitive/intelligence tests sports use just don't really align with the actual sport IMO. I do think the s2 has way more usefulness than the Wonderlic, but there are way too many variables on the football field for any type of cognitive test to factor in. The s2 should be low on the importance scale and I would hope that a poor score on the s2 would be obvious on tape, because the assumption would be that they are not making smart throws.

Exactly, there are two perspectives to a test. A positive correlation and a negative correlation. QBs who score high on the S2 TEND to succeed better in the NFL, and that's all the test is telling you. They don't release poor S2 scores of other players so we don't know if there is a negative correlation. Regardless, Bryce has set himself up to be the #1 pick. Let's go! 

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6 minutes ago, RJK said:

How is he not good when Chicago just traded the #1 overall pick!…you answered your own question 

Fields was objectively a top 5 QB for an extended stretch last year pretty much right after they allowed him to start taking off.  As someone who hates OSU and the Bears I'm not really sure where anyone could involve themselves in a football convo starting from a place of saying Fields isn't good

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46 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Nobody is knocking Bryce for practicing it. But you also can’t say practicing something doesn’t improve your performance in reaction times. Of course it does. The more you practice the more you’re able to react without thinking.  Think of reaction based video games, the more you play then the better you get, especially when it’s strictly based on reaction time.
 

Is it a very good sign that he scored so well? Of course!  Does the fact he’s been practicing since high school skew the context of comparing his score against anyone else who took the test? Of course it does. 

Ok first off its most likely not going to help taking it multiple times.  Second off lets compare it to practicing for the 40 yard dash for example.   First off there is a physical genetic limitation to how fast you can run regardless of how much you train for it.  Second, if you run a 4.25 at the nfl combine and you practiced for the 40 since high school, guess what?  You're still fast.  Thats all that really matters.

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