The Real Reason Bryce Being the Pick Scares Me - He'll be the Marvin Lewis of QB's

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

We can overlook it in favor of a greater skill set.

In fact, we should.

Greater skill set IS a genuine dual threat. 

The noodle can help you think but legs and muscles keep you safe or help you stiff arm dominate and keep running with the rock instead of getting crushed by a mountain.

[rippadonn]

He's much too small, THAT'S the part that's annoying, everybody sees it and knows it.

[Aussie Tank]

5 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Also that's what all the Youngsters say. This is the most viscous contact sport in perhaps the whole world, we can't overlook size and stature  in favor of a fantasy.

 

Please Rugby league but only in State of Origin 

[Verge]

Where exactly have we been for the last decade or so?

[Martin]

Just now, rippadonn said:

He's much too small, THAT'S the part that's annoying, everybody sees it and knows it.

Everyone acknowledges that he is small. But many feel it is not a huge deal. That where opinions differ. And you can chose to accept that other people have a different opinion or pretend like everyone has to agree with yours.

[WUnderhill]

8 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Also that's what all the Youngsters say. This is the most viscous contact sport in perhaps the whole world, we can't overlook size and stature  in favor of a fantasy.

 

For my money, mud wrestling is the most viscous contact sport.

[Diehardpanth02]

18 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

If BY constantly gets injured like the OP says, it will wear him down tremendously and he won't get back to where he was. Look at Cam Newton for an example of that. It wasn't one injury that derailed his career (Watt hit was the straw that broke the camels back), it was seasons and seasons worth of wear and tear and before you know it, he goes from MVP to not being able to throw the football 15 yards anymore and off of the team.

 

Another bot take. Cam was used as a friggin battering Ram for years. I don't foresee that in Bryce's future thankfully 

[rippadonn]

He's a disadvantage no matter how many mental advantages y'all come up with. It's all hype. Not even better than his predecessor Tua statistically or stylistically.

Nothing special about his body, just his noodle, ok arm, "gets it" and moxy. That doesn't make a NFL player.

Ignore the physical part to his/your peril. Why are all the other guys more physically strong, ready for the NFL? You really want underdog to win but even Kyler can't stay on the field and he's of a thicker build.

You going to spend the #1 pick and wait for a guy to "grow up" "put on weight" to play and actually try to stay on the field?

[rippadonn]

5 minutes ago, Martin said:

Everyone acknowledges that he is small. But many feel it is not a huge deal. That where opinions differ. And you can chose to accept that other people have a different opinion or pretend like everyone has to agree with yours.

It's going to be hard for 185lbs to stop 300lbs that's not an "opinion".

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

It's going to be hard for 185lbs to stop 300lbs that's not an "opinion".

Size bros right now…

[rippadonn]

[Mr. Scot]

53 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Greater skill set IS a genuine dual threat. 

The noodle can help you think but legs and muscles keep you safe or help you stiff arm dominate and keep running with the rock instead of getting crushed by a mountain.

How'd that work out for Newton?

Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Peyton Manning all had long, very successful careers. None of them were athletic freaks.

Brain power, passing accuracy and processing ability will take you much further in the NFL than athleticism.

It's a cool thing to have, but it's nowhere near as important as the other stuff.

[Actionman0z]

21 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Yea, I know, another thread, but I don't think this is something I've seen discussed much on here and it's been rattling around in my head while I wait for the finale of The Mandalorian to drop here in a few minutes.  

I'm afraid Bryce will be the Marvin Lewis of QB's due to his size and it will put us in NFL purgatory for the next decade, which is SOOO much worse than just missing on a QB draft pick and needing to start over in 3-4 years with a new one.

If he flops for being the top pick, it won't be because he's terrible, it will be because he can't stay healthy for full seasons, and likely is hurt later in the season as the wear and tear builds and would miss playoff games, such as Lamar the last few years.

He'll be too good of a QB to just let walk in Free Agency, but his injury problems won't make him an attractive trade candidate either, and we'll be stuck with a QB who only is able to play 10-12 games a year.  He'll be good enough in those games that we are Wild Card contenders each year, making it some, missing it in others, but maybe never being legit title contenders if he can't be fully healthy come January and leaving us pick in the early 20's each draft as well.

That's basically what Marvin Lewis was to the Bengals as a coach, he was too good for them to fire, but not good enough when it mattered and they couldn't make playoff runs with him.  It was a terrible situation for them to be in for a long time, and I'm convinced that will happen with Bryce and whatever team drafts him.  Which is why I prefer Stroud, equally high upside, with I think a higher floor, but if he flops we'll know and be able to move on from him faster/easier than with the way Young will "flop" in my mind.

I can't lie that I'm intrigued by Young's mental side of things, the thing that stood out to me the most was that they would give him 2 plays to call in the huddle and he'd make the play call at the line, that's an NFL thing, not in college, in college the players all look back to the sideline for the final call.  But Stroud is too good of a prospect for me to take the risk on the above scenario, which I think is the most likely outcome for Bryce's career.

That’s why we have Matt Corral, and why Tepper and his trophy wife are the problem. Football people want Stroud, admin wants Midget. Draft midget, get hurt, enter Corral. Simple.

[CPF4LIFE]

Just lookin around different places and a lot of fans just arent comfortable with Bryce. Folks might as well get ready for the backlash. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by CPF4LIFE