NFL insider: Brian Burns' extension could be close to Myles Garrett's deal

[t96]

13 hours ago, KSpan said:

No he's not, at least not totally. He's the second most athletic and maybe someday that translates to a complete package on the field, but not at this point. CJ and Rucker are both above him based on consistency, ability in both the run and pass game, and longevity.

Yep. And I'd even put Mario over him for now, burns should pass him soon enough but Mario's career here was better than Burns' has been so far. And Hardy was a dumb fug but his peak was significantly better than what we've seen from Burns so far. Too bad it was so shortlived.

[Ricky Spanish]

57 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

And you can always rework it.   The main thing I hope we are conscious of especially in light of the cmac deal is how long and how much guaranteed money is at stake.  He is going to get paid, he has all the leverage we are just hoping its not some crazy ass mega deal that could go sideways as we have seen a ton from this team. 

Honestly, I'd rather overpay a DE than a RB. It is not financially beneficial to break the bank on RBs in today's NFL. You pay DEs big money because their production is hard to replace. You can easily replace 80-90% of an All-pro RB's production with rookies and vet journeyman, and pay 1/10th the cost to do so. Sanders' deal is probably the most money I'd be comfortable handing a RB these days. 

[KSpan]

10 minutes ago, t96 said:

Yep. And I'd even put Mario over him for now, burns should pass him soon enough but Mario's career here was better than Burns' has been so far. And Hardy was a dumb fug but his peak was significantly better than what we've seen from Burns so far. Too bad it was so shortlived.

You and a couple of others mentioning Hardy... I honestly forgot all about him. Dude was definitely ont he Rucker/Johnson type path but turned out to be a bad individual that ruined his own career. I'd put Addison a tier below those guys but agree that he did turn into a pretty effective all-around player. Burns would benefit from making a couple more timely impact plays and his run defense needs some signficant work, but it would also help if Carolina got a solid run defender on the other side of him.

Edited May 30, 2023 by KSpan

[pantherj]

Fitt sees Burns as the cornerstone of our defense and turned down a mega deal for him, so Burns' agent is in the drivers seat. Burns is going to get what he wants, even with the miserable TB performance where he was stone walled one on one the entire game.

[pantherj]

Also the blue print for this team is to save money on offense and be dink and dunk, and spend the saved money on defense. So expect an expensive well paid defense moving forward. We're going to cut costs on offense, and build up the defense.

[KSpan]

7 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Also the blue print for this team is to save money on offense and be dink and dunk, and spend the saved money on defense. So expect an expensive well paid defense moving forward. We're going to cut costs on offense, and build up the defense.

Yup, looking that way. It could certainly work, but appears to be a less conventional approach for today's NFL.

[PootieNunu]

16 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Also the blue print for this team is to save money on offense and be dink and dunk, and spend the saved money on defense. So expect an expensive well paid defense moving forward. We're going to cut costs on offense, and build up the defense.

Thats fine if your building up the D with all pros, not when making a pass rush specialist your highest paid player. 

I hope Burns turns a corner in this new D because we are about to pay him like he is a top 5 Edge rusher. 

[Pup McBarky]

15 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Also the blue print for this team is to save money on offense

I have also heard this. I only hope the exceptions are QB and OL.

[jtm]

He's an elite player at one of the most important positions in football and he's young.  Plus he's a leader and well respected in the locker room.  The franchise tag would be an insult.  Pay the man. 

[pantherj]

1 hour ago, Pup McBarky said:

I have also heard this. I only hope the exceptions are QB and OL.

Yeah the reason this is floating around is because Tepper started running off at the mouth at a post draft press conference and basically made it clear that was our plan. I don't know if the Panthers organization wanted him to say all of that, but he's the owner so he can say what he wants.

I don't know how accurate or up to date this is, but If you want to look at spending on offense atm:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offense/

 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

On 5/28/2023 at 5:08 PM, Panthro said:

Quietly he'll become better than Peppers was for us

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

On 5/30/2023 at 12:20 PM, pantherj said:

Also the blue print for this team is to save money on offense and be dink and dunk, and spend the saved money on defense. So expect an expensive well paid defense moving forward. We're going to cut costs on offense, and build up the defense.

I really wish they would move away from the defense-first philosophy. Maybe they will with this coaching staff 

[jfra78]

44 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I thought so too, but when you compare their first 4 seasons it's not too far off.

Peppers: 193 tackles, 40.5 sacks, FF 14, INT 3, PD 23

Burns: 196 tackles, 38 sacks, FF 7, INT 0, PD 11

I know not everything is based on stats, but when I looked it up they are actually very close.  Also year 5 was one of Peppers best seasons

[mrcompletely11]

24 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I thought so too, but when you compare their first 4 seasons it's not too far off.

Peppers: 193 tackles, 40.5 sacks, FF 14, INT 3, PD 23

Burns: 196 tackles, 38 sacks, FF 7, INT 0, PD 11

I know not everything is based on stats, but when I looked it up they are actually very close.  Also year 5 was one of Peppers best seasons

lol he was suspended for 4 games his rookie year, he had mono in his 2nd year and he won dpoy in his 3rd.  Goddamn people