Some positive and critical thoughts on yesterdays game

[ForJimmy]

16 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I mean what’s wrong with that? Isnt that just the circle of life for a fan? I feel like I’ve seen 100s of parodies of people being like “this is our year” when they are a fan of an all time horrible team. It’s just the nature of beast.

 

As on record, I didn’t think we’d beat the falcons. However, I really hoped we would and woke up Sunday morning feeling like it could happen.  then bummed when we lost. Now im excited about playing the saints at home on national tv.
 

 

 

That’s the life of a fan.

Yeah and honestly we could have easily won that game. We won time of possession and the battle of the trenches. We just beat ourselves, especially with turnovers. The Falcons are a beatable team and I’m betting it’s a different story when they come to Charlotte and Young has some games under his belt. 

[Harbingers]

12 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah and honestly we could have easily won that game. We won time of possession and the battle of the trenches. We just beat ourselves, especially with turnovers. The Falcons are a beatable team and I’m betting it’s a different story when they come to Charlotte and Young has some games under his belt. 

Wasn’t even the turnovers that did us in. Was the shitty game plan adjustment for the second half. I was so hoping after Rhule we wouldn’t have to go down this road again. Ugh. Difference is I actually still believe in Bryce and Reich at this point. 

[JawnyBlaze]

16 hours ago, CRA said:

roughly half the board was tempering things.   

There have always been essentially two groups

Group A - we have an all star staff and should compete for a playoff spot crowd.  That starts most convos off with a game away last year and we just add on to that narrative. 

Group B - this is a rebuild, rookie QB, new coaches, new schemes, meh skill talent on O and you shouldn't expect much winning this year crowd.  It's about developing Bryce and how he looks down the stretch. 

You forgot Group C, which is probably the biggest group. “Wah I hate David Tepper. Wah I hate Scott Fitterer. Wah Reich was the wrong choice. Wah Young was the wrong choice. Wah I hate everything and we suck.”

If it’s not the biggest group, it’s the most vocal. 

[Mr. Scot]

13 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

I mean what’s wrong with that? Isnt that just the circle of life for a fan? I feel like I’ve seen 100s of parodies of people being like “this is our year” when they are a fan of an all time horrible team. It’s just the nature of beast.

As on record, I didn’t think we’d beat the falcons. However, I really hoped we would and woke up Sunday morning feeling like it could happen.  then bummed when we lost. Now im excited about playing the saints at home on national tv.

That’s the life of a fan.

I don't think too many people have an issue with optimistic predictions.

The ridiculous overreaction when those predictions don't come true, on the other hand...

[Saca312]

On 9/12/2023 at 12:14 PM, Mr. Scot said:

You have to put some context on that too.

It's not like we were world users. Hell, the one truly good team we faced absolutely drubbed us.

Bill Parcells quotes aside, the Panthers weren't necessarily as good as our final record made some believe.

It was exciting to see that after Rhule left, Wilks picked up and the team did much better under him.

BUT, you're right on target about context - we had the benefit of a much easier strength of schedule to end the year. That stretch of bottom tier rushing defenses truly inflated our win record that year. When faced against competent teams (i.e. Bengals) the Panthers one-dimensional rushing attack got shut down, as expected. It was a team that was a far cry from being worthy of any playoff disruptors.

This year shows marginal improvements, but nothing that would make me think possible superbowl. MAYBE possible playoffs IF the NFC South ends up being bad, but that would imply we would limp into it with a subpar record.

I have no confidence the Panthers would beat the current Cowboys, 49ers nor Eagles, who have teams with much better depth and talent across the board.

It's just simple logic. This team - barring a miracle - is not likely to surprise if they reach the playoffs with a rookie QB, new coaching staff and scheme. It will still take time. This year is prime for development and that's the goal by the end of year - to see improvementc, potential and a vision taking place. 

Once the team starts rebuilding the weak parts of the roster, then there's that superbowl chance coming, likely within a couple of years pending things trend up.

But again, it takes time and patience, and realistic expectations as well.

Once that's realized, things aren't as stressful and rather actually exciting, as with the mindset of seeing development and improvement, there surely will be some fruitful results.

[Carl Spackler]

This team is going to go 3-14 or 4-13. But 9-8 is on the cards next year 

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

This team is going to go 3-14 or 4-13. But 9-8 is on the cards next year 

Catastrophe if that happens.   

[unicar15]

They played basically nobody deep bc without DJC there is nobody that will take the top off the D. Young fit throws into tight windows all day and Bates basically sat down and dared our receivers to run by him. If Chark is out there it’s a completely different game.

Idk when the last time I thought that was…maybe Smitty and Delhomme days? Even with DJ all those years the QB was never good enough to make a difference. Give Young a deep threat and he’s going to be very good with open windows. 

[travisura]

15 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

This team is going to go 3-14 or 4-13. But 9-8 is on the cards next year 

You've been predicting 0-17 for years now so I'm gonna take that 3-14 prediction to mean you've hit a stroke of optimism.

[Carl Spackler]

7 minutes ago, travisura said:

You've been predicting 0-17 for years now so I'm gonna take that 3-14 prediction to mean you've hit a stroke of optimism.

On the flip side of the coin, I’m not sure what you’d call predicting playoffs when Matt Rhule is the coach. 

[MasterAwesome]

On 9/12/2023 at 8:02 PM, mrcompletely11 said:

whats nuts is that 85% of the board predicted we would beat atlanta.  Then the same posters were saying calm down bryce is a rookie, now those same posters are predicting a win against the saints.  Its crazy.

 

We will take our lumps this year, maybe win 7 games and then position ourselves into the conversation in 2024

Lol what?  85% of the board absolutely did not predict we would beat Atlanta...most people picked Atlanta to win.  I know cause I embarrassingly went back to the prediction thread and read through all 14 pages just because I was so baffled by your comment.  19 picked Panthers, 21 picked Falcons.  And that's only the explicit predictions...I didn't even factor in many others that implied loss but didn't outright predict it, i.e. "there's zero chance we stop their run game" or "I can't see us winning in Atlanta with a rookie QB".

[ForJimmy]

7 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Lol what?  85% of the board absolutely did not predict we would beat Atlanta...most people picked Atlanta to win.  I know cause I embarrassingly went back to the prediction thread and read through all 14 pages just because I was so baffled by your comment.  19 picked Panthers, 21 picked Falcons.  And that's only the explicit predictions...I didn't even factor in many others that implied loss but didn't outright predict it, i.e. "there's zero chance we stop their run game" or "I can't see us winning in Atlanta with a rookie QB".

Yeah people like to overexaggerate to try to make their point stand out.  It's really a lot of nonsense.  Guess what?  I can predict my favorite team to win every game AND be aware we have a rookie QB who will need some time.  It's not like we are putting money on these predictions as it's just a message board for fans.  The doom and gloom fans that come back on here to mock fans for being excited about their team always confuse me.  If someone wants to be optimistic about a sport they watch for fun who cares??  

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Lol what?  85% of the board absolutely did not predict we would beat Atlanta...most people picked Atlanta to win.  I know cause I embarrassingly went back to the prediction thread and read through all 14 pages just because I was so baffled by your comment.  19 picked Panthers, 21 picked Falcons.  And that's only the explicit predictions...I didn't even factor in many others that implied loss but didn't outright predict it, i.e. "there's zero chance we stop their run game" or "I can't see us winning in Atlanta with a rookie QB".

 

this thread?

[Icege]

Understanding and accepting that the team has a rookie QB and new coaching staff doesn't mean that fans can't predict that the Panthers will win. It just means that we're not going to rage post on the Internet during a loss.

Personally, I find it more fulfilling and entertaining to try to understand why things happened rather than assuming I know more about football than the people paying their bills with it.