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Kyle Brandt tells people to "pump the brakes" on calling Bryce Young a bust

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34 minutes ago, frankw said:

Well that talent around him still managed to lose to this clown show of a team. At the end of the day what it boils down to is CJ has the natural ability to make more with what he has on a more consistent basis. While all we have is arguing amongst each other about who is or isn't biased as we try to blame everyone on the team down to the water boy after Bryce Young threw two pick sixes to the same defender.

Stroud is great and most of us wanted him, but if anyone tells you there were expecting this out of him they are lying.  I thought he had great potential and a higher floor than Young, but what he is doing with the Texans is crazy.  Even the Texans are blown away.  I was unsure how much he could elevate talent around him since his offense so was loaded at OSU.  He sucks that we missed out on him but his immediate transition to the NFL has been a pleasant surprise. 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

no reason for a team to do anything but zone against us.  Keep your eyes on the QB and just prepare to jump and make a play on the routes you know Carolina is running.  It's all going to be infront of you.  And the routes are going to be slow on top of that.  That's an easy life for a D.  And the results have shown that since week 1. 

Or play man against our slow WR's and send 5,6,7 guys if you get bored of zone. Either way

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8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Where are the plays where Bryce shines above what you'd expect just an average roster caliber NFL QB to accomplish? Just being honest they're few and far between. That's my concern. That we've made a costly trade up to #1 to draft a QB that has to be lifted up by his team, not a QB who can lift a team up.

Bingo.

When you trade FIVE premium players for the guy you expect more than a handful of plays by now where you think "Yeah, ok, he's going to be fine when the playcalling / roster improves". 

And fine is a low bar, because for that cost he has to be exceptional. 

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Just now, OldhamA said:

Bingo.

When you trade FIVE premium players for the guy you expect more than a handful of plays by now where you think "Yeah, ok, he's going to be fine when the playcalling / roster improves". 

And fine is a low bar, because for that cost he has to be exceptional. 

I know about DJ. Who are the other four?

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16 minutes ago, OldhamA said:
  • WR D.J. Moore
  • 2023 first-round pick (No. 9 overall)
  • 2023 second-round pick (No. 61 overall)
  • 2024 first-round pick (trending to be No. 1 overall)
  • 2025 second-round pick

So one actual premium player, one hopefully premium player (the 2024 #1, which likely would not be trending #1 with a journeyman QB like Dalton) and two coin-flip premium prayers given Carolina's track record, unless you consider our current 2nd rounder WRs premium. The 2023 #1 was a swap.

Sorry, but DJ + 3 gambles were traded, not five premium players which IMO should be sure-fire players on-track for all-pro careers. Maybe those picks would be difference makers through dumb luck, but the last few #1s for Carolina are Bryce (maybe bust), Ickey (maybe bust), Horn (maybe bust), and Burns (soon-to-be albatross contract). The #2s are also busts. 

This team can't draft. Full stop. So they just spared themselves from four likely stupid moves by making one potentially stupid one.

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18 minutes ago, BrisbanePanther said:

So one actual premium player, one hopefully premium player (the 2024 #1, which likely would not be trending #1 with a journeyman QB like Dalton) and two coin-flip premium prayers given Carolina's track record, unless you consider our current 2nd rounder WRs premium. The 2023 #1 was a swap.

Sorry, but DJ + 3 gambles were traded, not five premium players which IMO should be sure-fire players on-track for all-pro careers. Maybe those picks would be difference makers through dumb luck, but the last few #1s for Carolina are Bryce (maybe bust), Ickey (maybe bust), Horn (maybe bust), and Burns (soon-to-be albatross contract). The #2s are also busts. 

This team can't draft. Full stop. So they just spared themselves from four likely stupid moves by making one potentially stupid one.

Well I guess that's one way of looking at it.

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