Daniel Jeremiah on Panthers Offense/Bryce

[UNCrules2187]

 

[Mage]

I feel like this is accurate.  Every element of the offense is bad.  QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, Offensive Coaches, you name it.  All is bad.

The question at this point is just what is causing what and what can actually be fixed in 2024 vs what is just beyond repair.

[Martin]

[Wolfcop]

5 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

 

Shut up with these "experts". The huddle mantra is Bryce too short, Bryce sucks, CJ Stroud would be best ever in this offense. 

[Mr. Scot]

Those are really good analyses.

I'd add in what Kirk Herbstreit said...

 

[*FreeFua*]

It’s been mentioned here before that corners/defenses simply aren’t afraid of getting beat deep which makes it even more mind boggling that a large majority of plays have WR’s running 5-10 yard routes. It’s damn near impossible to complete a 10 yard hook if the corner isn’t scared to get beat deep

[Martin]

I think this is good and balanced analysis. It is refreshing to also point out that while circumstances are not great, Bryce also have plenty of work to do. He is not absolved due to his surroundings. He has to show more. And that is the main point of many of us criticizing him, he has to show more.

[ECHornet]

The coaches need to find a happy medium between “letting Bryce be Bryce” and correcting the obvious like his footwork.
 

Yes, he has good ability to throw off platform, but reigning in his footwork in the pocket isn’t going to make him less special. 
 

 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

It’s been mentioned here before that corners/defenses simply aren’t afraid of getting beat deep which makes it even more mind boggling that a large majority of plays have WR’s running 5-10 yard routes. It’s damn near impossible to complete a 10 yard hook if the corner isn’t scared to get beat deep

A typical West Coast offense will feature receivers and backs who can take a short pass for a long gain along with at least one deep threat receiver to spread the field.

We don't really have that.

The one part of a good WCO that we do have is a reliable possession receiver in Adam Thielen.

[Jay Roosevelt]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

It’s been mentioned here before that corners/defenses simply aren’t afraid of getting beat deep which makes it even more mind boggling that a large majority of plays have WR’s running 5-10 yard routes. It’s damn near impossible to complete a 10 yard hook if the corner isn’t scared to get beat deep

They're not just unafraid of being beat deep, they're not afraid of our receivers being able to do anything after the catch either.

Between the OL being forced into a zone blocking scheme that they're just not suited for and trying to run a quick strike passing game with slow possession receivers we're pretty well fuged.

I'll admit Bryce can certainly play a lot better, but this is a situation that would be tough for any QB to perform in.

[ForJimmy]

Shenault is unreliable and sloppy, but he is very good at YAC.  His injury is hurting us to a degree as well.  

[Mr. Scot]

Also wouldn't make much sense to be scared of deep passing when you know the quarterback is likely to be put on his back long before anything like that can even develop...

[Mr. Scot]

Regarding Young vs Stroud...

 

[SCO96]

Even since one of our guys on the forum (I think it was the Casillas) pointed out BY's footwork I've made it analyze during the game or afterwards on highlight footage. His drop-back technique is bad. He also needs to learn how to play under center. NFL level coaches should be able to pick up on these type of flaws in training camp and help the player improve. What exactly is Josh McCown doing for Bryce? Frank Reich used to play QB in the NFL. These 2 should have addressed this months ago. They should also be able to come up with better plays along with Thomas Brown for the gameplan.