Tepper to speak on Tuesday

[ncfan]

From a friend of our now former QB coach 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, ncfan said:

From a friend of our now former QB coach 

Pretty sure nobody believes that it was Tepper versus everybody.

The idea that coaches preferred Stroud while scouts preferred Young and Tepper wound up tipping the balance isn't exactly farfetched though.

[csx]

3 minutes ago, ncfan said:

From a friend of our now former QB coach 

The majority of the Huddle did too. If you disagreed you were labeled a Size Queen

I wonder how camwhoaaaacam has twisted his narrative. I don't read hear often anymore 

[Carolina Mike]

David Tepper would make a good Penguin villain.

[frankw]

12 minutes ago, ncfan said:

From a friend of our now former QB coach 

I think most people are arguing the Tepper's were overly involved and held a level of sway over the staff.  Not that they directly made the pick and no one else felt BY was worthy of the pick. They certainly showed their preference in no uncertain terms at Young's pro day.

[AU-panther]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pretty sure nobody believes that it was Tepper versus everybody.

The idea that coaches preferred Stroud while scouts preferred Young and Tepper wound up tipping the balance isn't exactly farfetched though.

But those people were not quick to post that tweet since it doesn’t fit their agenda even though they are quick to post anything that does. 

[raleigh-panther]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's kind of the point.

When you have a sh-tty organization, good players with better options will do exactly that.

Now, you can rage and lecture players about being spoiled and try to convince them that they should just suck it up and come work here rather than somewhere better because reasons, or you can actually try to make the organization better so that good players and coaches will want to come here.

I'll give you three guesses which of those options tends to be more effective...

I’m not raging  I’m not lecturing   

its not worth it to me  

The whole argument about ‘shitty organizations’ is also flawed but being the historian, you know this already as   Franchises can turn one way or the other very quickly 

Again, David Tepper is in control here.  His 2.2 billion dollar purchase price  earned him that right 

what I think of him, what you think of him or what you think he should do is of no consequence to this situation  or to him 

then again, you could send your recommendations directly to him.  Im  sure he would appreciate them 

 

[Call Me James]

7 minutes ago, frankw said:

I think most people are arguing the Tepper's were overly involved and held a level of sway over the staff.  Not that they directly made the pick and no one else felt BY was worthy of the pick. They certainly showed their preference in no uncertain terms at Young's pro day.

Maybe, but if they felt like they couldn’t win with Bryce they’d have made a bigger objection and that’s something we know they did not do at that level.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, raleigh-panther said:

I’m not raging  I’m not lecturing   

its not worth it to me  

The whole argument about ‘shitty organizations’ is also flawed but being the historian, you know this already as   Franchises can turn one way or the other very quickly 

Again, David Tepper is in control here.  His 2.2 billion dollar purchase price  earned him that right 

what I think of him, what you think of him or what you think he should do is of no consequence to this situation  or to him 

then again, you could send your recommendations directly to him.  Im  sure he would appreciate them 

So we lowly fans should all just sit back and accept that our billionaire owner runs a sh-tty team and be happy that we're getting to watch football regardless of whether it's good or not?

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll decline.

I don't think anybody here is of the mind that conversing on a message board is going to change anything, but it's what fans do in a sport talk forum.

[frankw]

1 minute ago, Call Me James said:

Maybe, but if they felt like they couldn’t win with Bryce they’d have made a bigger objection and that’s something we know they did not do at that level.

Oh don't get me wrong I agree the front office and staff are rife with incompetence and buffoonery.

But at the same time we know from the mouth of David Tepper himself that he spoke to Bryce personally months before the draft and wanted him in process blue. At some point as an employee you reach an impasse where you see your boss who pays you wants a certain prospect more and you relent.

[mwa78]

19 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pretty sure nobody believes that it was Tepper versus everybody.

The idea that coaches preferred Stroud while scouts preferred Young and Tepper wound up tipping the balance isn't exactly farfetched though.

So you are going against what Kunkel and Jonathan Jones said, which is everyone in the building wanted Young.

There is so much to complain about regarding Tepper, but can you at least drop this BS narrative that you’ve been pushing over and over again. I

[HPPantherzfan]

I dunno, I watched and really didn't get anything out of it but more confusion.  It was said that you don't make a trade like they did without conviction for a player.  It was then said that the Panthers believed they were going to get pick number two and at that pick they would be getting CJ.  Are they admitting that the group had conviction on CJ but ended up taking Bryce as a big F.U. to the Texans?  

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, mwa78 said:

So you are going against what Kunkel and Jonathan Jones said, which is everyone in the building wanted Young.

There is so much to complain about regarding Tepper, but can you at least drop this BS narrative that you’ve been pushing over and over again. I

It's far from a unanimous take, and that includes among trusted sources. You can also go back to the discussion that was had around draft time and see differences as well.

And if we're being both on a stand realistic, the notion that some wanted Stroud while others wanted young is a whole lot easier to believe then this idea that there was unanimous consensus Young was the best choice.

That kind of thing is pretty rare in football organizations.

 

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, UNCrules2187 said:

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Everyone? No one had another opinion or thought? No one? Since it’s not turning out, and the alternative appears to be, I’d think that’s very concerning isn’t it? 

Thats bullshit or people knew they didn’t have a choice anyways. I find it very difficult to believe the entire building unanimously came to the conclusion Tepper did.

Edited November 28, 2023 by onmyown