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Panthers closing in on hiring DAVE CANALES

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CamWhoaaCam Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Memphis said:

Don't get the rush.

Wasn't the Panthers the only team to interview Canales?

Would at least like to kick the tires on Mike Vrabel and do in person interviews with Monken and Macdonald.

Tepper locks in on a guy nobody else interviewed.

 

Just shows you how bad he is at making hires. I knew it would be a HC nobody was mentioning. Dude has 1 yr experience and that's enough for Tepper.

 

 

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1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Tepper locks in on a guy nobody else interviewed.

 

Just shows you how bad he is at making hires. I knew it would be a HC nobody was mentioning. Dude has 1 yr experience and that's enough for Tepper.

 

 

What if I told you everyone else said no?

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26 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Bucs fans are happy he’s gone. Doesn’t inspire confidence whatsoever. 

 

Totally underwhelming GM/coach combo. Tepper is going to have to get super lucky 

You must be seeing a small number of Bucs fans. Most I’ve seen wanted him there a long time.

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One thing that is going for him... Pete Carrol is one of the best culture builders to ever do it. He's the rare type that could do it both in college and NFL which means his system truly works. Pete hired Canales to USC from COMMUNITY COLLEGE and has followed him everywhere and worked his way up until he left for the Bucs. That's almost 15 years of seeing exactly how Pete does team building at different stops. Gotta imagine a lot of that stuck with Canales. 

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I get it. This just feels impatient to me.

Who were you hoping to get? Let's assume Ben Johnson has already bowed out. 

For me, I wasn't a fan of Vrabel, felt like he was an overrated HC. I wanted Harbaugh (think you made pretty clear you didn't). Mike Macdonald I think is an intriguing candidate and would've loved to see him get a second interview, but then again he also only has one year (this year) of NFL DC experience. Not sure what his plan for OC coming in (and for what he would do if that OC got poached in year 1/2) would be. I don't think Monken ever made much sense for a variety of reasons (mostly mediocre results except for when he had 5 star talent at UGA and an MVP QB in Lamar).

I was never on the Belichick or Quinn train personally. Slowik I'd have been okay with, but you have a similar situation with Canales and only one year of OC experience. Bengals moved quickly on Callahan. After that you're pretty much left with Morris or Evero if not Canales. 

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17 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Everyone knows we are going to stink in 2024. We don’t have the draft picks and current talent to make some amazing leap like the Rams did this year. They had a fantastic draft but they also still had Stafford, Kupp, Donald, etc. to build around and Williams was drafted in 2022. We will need at least a solid draft in 2024 and 2025 (maybe QB).

It all comes down to Morgan and his team. If we get more of his BFF Fitterer type drafting, we’ll be bad for a long time.

The standard for Canales should be exactly as it was for Reich - steady and visible improvement thorughout the season with little to no regard for the overall record. If the team (players and staff alike) compete, grow, and show themselves to be strategically competent, then as long as they end 2024 playing much better football than they did at the start it's a positive season. If they don't then the leash should continue to be short, and if things carry along this same trend as this year we'll know that Tepper is an even more massive moron than he has appeared thus far.

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1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

One thing that is going for him... Pete Carrol is one of the best culture builders to ever do it. He's the rare type that could do it both in college and NFL which means his system truly works. Pete hired Canales to USC from COMMUNITY COLLEGE and has followed him everywhere and worked his way up until he left for the Bucs. That's almost 15 years of seeing exactly how Pete does team building at different stops. Gotta imagine a lot of that stuck with Canales. 

On a similar note, I wish Tepp would pay Pete a billion dollars to come on in some sort of advisory role.

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4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

What if I told you everyone else said no?

Sadly this might be 100% fact.

 

It's not like the HC was set up for success. Maybe the more well known candidates simply didn't want the job. This was a quick hire nonetheless.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Memphis said:

Don't get the rush.

Wasn't the Panthers the only team to interview Canales?

Would at least like to kick the tires on Mike Vrabel and do in person interviews with Monken and Macdonald.

If he’s the guy, why wait? Coordinator candidates are important as well and getting hired by other teams while we wait.

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2 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

Who were you hoping to get? Let's assume Ben Johnson has already bowed out. 

For me, I wasn't a fan of Vrabel, felt like he was an overrated HC. I wanted Harbaugh (think you made pretty clear you didn't). Mike Macdonald I think is an intriguing candidate and would've loved to see him get a second interview, but then again he also only has one year (this year) of NFL DC experience. Not sure what his plan for OC coming in (and for what he would do if that OC got poached in year 1/2) would be. I don't think Monken ever made much sense for a variety of reasons (mostly mediocre results except for when he had 5 star talent at UGA and an MVP QB in Lamar).

I was never on the Belichick or Quinn train personally. Slowik I'd have been okay with, but you have a similar situation with Canales and only one year of OC experience. Bengals moved quickly on Callahan. After that you're pretty much left with Morris or Evero if not Canales. 

I'd at least like to have given a second interview to Johnson. But hell, even if not Johnson, one of the Ravens guys.

Not that huge a fan of Vrabel, worried he'd be more style over substance.

All in all, give him that nobody else was pursuing Canales, I don't get the rush to hire him.

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      Good film breakdown of Young. Good and bad. Film examples

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    • CRA
      Good film breakdown of Young. Good and bad. Film examples

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      Baker just played how Baker played.... everywhere but here. He is a risk taking gunslinger.  Always has been.  And last year was asked to be what he was.   Geno Smith was the best deep ball passer in the NFL his comeback season.  Wasn't even close that year.  Again, that's the type passer Canales has always been around in the offenses he has been part of.  The pass game that compliments the stubborn run is the deep chunk play pass game.   And that was his first investment with XL.  My continued point, is the same as going into last season.  It's a bad marriage going in.  The QB doesn't fit the scheme.  Again.  Carrol/Fox/Ron....all paired up their boring football with risk taking QBs.  And again, I'm fine if that is where we are going.  It's not my preference but that's not my argument.  I'm saying if we are doing that, we need a QB that matches it.     
    • ForJimmy
      Good film breakdown of Young. Good and bad. Film examples

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      I guess you missed the point. His rushing attack was dead last yet his team still performed. That’s not Fox/Rivera ball. His QB also had a career year. Remember the same QB that played for us in the same division and was so bad he was cut?  Carroll coached after Lynch as well. In fact Canales was more involved in the more recent offense with Geno Smith and a good rushing attack. People are taking him wanting a rushing attack and assuming that means we are shutting down our passing attack. Again many of the top offenses like SF, Miami, and Detroit featured strong rushing attacks. 
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