New Hire Coach Rankings

[Growl]

3 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

We literally have the worst coach in the league. Stop. 

Can you break down why you feel Canales’ offensive tendencies aren’t effective, why you feel he’s a poor communicator, his eye for talent, etc so that we might better understand 

[Kentucky Panther]

 This one echoes my opinion 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2z_QdLOgAB/?igsh=MTlkNXhybGRrZGtiOA==

[methodtoll]

I totally forgot about Pierce lol 

[WUnderhill]

50 minutes ago, methodtoll said:

Don't get me wrong, I really like the Canales pick but the teams ahead are more set up for success so I will reserve judgement until I see results.

So is this ranking the coaches or the team resources? Seems like different things.

I won’t pretend to know enough about the other guys to rank them, but I’m cautiously optimistic about Canales. I’d rather him than Macdonald because even when the defensive guys hit on the right OC’s they always lose them to HC opportunities. Don’t know anything about Callahan. Morris already failed once as a HC. And the other guys weren’t in play for us.

[outlaw4]

Like with draft picks, ask me in five years how to rank them.

For fun, one perspective on 2019 new hires. The two arguably biggest successes from 2019 only got C grades.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/1/10/18175671/new-nfl-coaching-hires-grades-2019

 

 

[csx]

2 hours ago, methodtoll said:

How would you rate the new HCs in the league? 

For me:

7. WAS-Quinn

6. ATL- Morris

5. CAR- Canales

4. TENN- Callahan

3. NE- Mayo

2. SEA- MacDonald

1. LAC- Harbaugh 

They haven't done anything to judges or rank

[ECHornet]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

We literally have the worst coach in the league. Stop. 

At minimum, a few 2023 Bucs assistant coaches disagree. Why hitch their wagon to Canales instead of staying in Tampa?

[strato]

 I am down on the hire because Tepper hired him, to be honest. That’s all I need anymore.

The hole he dug a year ago is still getting deeper but at the same time the position we are with the QBs in warrants a guy with his particular expertise Young or no Young.  

I have no hope at all he can transform the guy he was brought here for.

I do have hope though, that maybe he is the silver lining in this whole clusterfug. As we have seen time and again, you need a franchise QB, but you might even need a franchise coach more. For the times when you don’t have a franchise QB. And the times that you do, too. 

So far, I don’t see anything glaring* that says he can’t be (talking about the coach).

 

edit: *completely forgot to consider Tepper.

Edited February 2 by strato

[kungfoodude]

7 hours ago, methodtoll said:

I totally forgot about Pierce lol 

That's an interim to full time. Not really a new HC.

[Khyber53]

There's no way to tell, really. Every one of these teams was a trainwreck, and behind the scenes each may be as bad as our own was.

Harbaugh was the biggest get on paper, but Herbert has also supposed to have been the best QB of recent time... on paper. Overall, he's got the biggest resume going into the season.

The rest... we'll have to see.

And maybe Washington is getting a better prepared Dan Quinn than when he last was HC of the Falcons. And maybe not... he's going to have Falcon level players this time and that can be pretty rough.

Our guy, I just hope he can break the streak here.

[jamos14]

11 hours ago, Growl said:

Can you break down why you feel Canales’ offensive tendencies aren’t effective, why you feel he’s a poor communicator, his eye for talent, etc so that we might better understand 

This is how it's done.  Call out trolling; ask them legitimate football questions.  

 

Make this board actual have a football IQ again.

[jamos14]

All I know is that Dan Quinn is last.  

He was carried by Kyle Shannahan and prime Matt Ryan/Julio Jones.     Worst hire I've seen in a while.  (now watch them win the NFC East and me look stupid)

[Moonstone]

16 hours ago, methodtoll said:

Trust me, I would like to rank Canales if he was put in a better situation but it's going to be a long road but at least it looks like Tepper may stay out of the operations side and just let Morgan and Canales do their thing... Hopefully it translates.

I will say that this new structure gives me 49ers vibes. Morgan as GM is basically Lynch. We got a young, promising HC in Canales (Shanahan), his right hand man in Idzick (McDaniels), and a rising star DC in Evero (Ryans). Not saying they will be as good as a 49ers but I feel like that is who they are emulating.

I wonder who will be our Adam Peters

[BrianS]

While I generally have a positive opinion of Canales, I don't think he's going to be here long.

He's been handed a roster that is arguably the most devoid of talent in the league.  He has no 1st round pick to use or trade to start pulling us out.  Our cap situation is middle of the pack.  The QB he's been handed is a unicorn that will require all sorts of crazy hoop jumping and turn arounds to find success.  He's got an owner who has a clear history of impatience.

2024 is going to be ugly.  Six wins and no losses over 10 points would be incredible success.  I don't hold much hope for incredible success.  Four wins is a lot closer to reality.

I think we're hiring all new coaches and front office this time next year.