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Bryce’s Offseason Plans?

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I'm honestly just not sure that it even matters. He can't do anything about his height and arm talent is largely natural. You can't coach height, you can't coach speed, you can't coach arm talent. It just is what it is. His best bet is to do what he can to improve his arm strength and work like hell to fix the dumpster fire that is his footwork.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly just not sure that it even matters. He can't do anything about his height and arm talent is largely natural. You can't coach height, you can't coach speed, you can't coach arm talent. It just is what it is. His best bet is to do what he can to improve his arm strength and work like hell to fix the dumpster fire that is his footwork.

Pretty sure he has processed in his brain that if he plants his feet properly to step into a pass in 60% of the situations he finds himself in, the ball will go directly into the back of his O-lines helmets or into the hands of the D-line. Same with the arm strength/vision after those 2 picks against Atlanta early in the season. Gotta be a reason he throws the ball away so often when he does get a chance to scramble

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16 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Pretty sure he has processed in his brain that if he plants his feet properly to step into a pass in 60% of the situations he finds himself in, the ball will go directly into the back of his O-lines helmets or into the hands of the D-line. Same with the arm strength/vision after those 2 picks against Atlanta early in the season. Gotta be a reason he throws the ball away so often when he does get a chance to scramble

Well, Canales made it clear that's what he'll be told to do.  Plant his feet and let it rip.  If he can't do it we'll have 1 in 2025 and he's out. 

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9 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Well, Canales made it clear that's what he'll be told to do.  Plant his feet and let it rip.  If he can't do it we'll have 1 in 2025 and he's out. 

Yeah, we'll see. I'm probably most interested in who they add as qb3 this offseason/camp lol. Dalton can win more games but what's the point? Take a gamble on late round guy/UDFA and actually give him reps 

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41 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Most important thing for him to do is work on that god awful accuracy.

Nothing backs this statement up. You can say eye test, but every stat, analysis, chart and professional opinion I've seen says he's one of the most accurate passers in the league. I didn't watch every game, but the games I did see, your statement about hitting a barn sounds like hyperbole. Maybe you need glasses?

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10 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

Nothing backs this statement up. You can say eye test, but every stat, analysis, chart and professional opinion I've seen says he's one of the most accurate passers in the league. I didn't watch every game, but the games I did see, your statement about hitting a barn sounds like hyperbole. Maybe you need glasses?

What I saw was someone who rarely hit his WRs in stride. They had to stop a lot to wait for the ball or do circus style catches. So that’s why I don’t consider him accurate at this point. Not sure how they actually measure accuracy as that doesn’t match up to what I see. But that is just my opinion, and maybe I’m completely wrong, who knows?

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34 minutes ago, jeffashe135 said:

He needs to learn fundamental QB footwork, starting with how to do 3, 5, and 7 step drop backs. I can't believe we drafted a QB at 1 whose fundamentals are so paltry, but this is the situation we find ourselves in. 

to an extent, you can't really overly worry about that with Bryce.  At his size, he isn't going to be able to play textbook traditional QB in the NFL.  

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      then we're stuck.  tbh, at this point i would settle for just making it interesting. forget winning a superbowl for now. just get a team that can win games consistently and hope that it's enough to get to the big dance.  we want superman. we aren't getting superman. we had him and we blew our chance with him.  find a way make it work and hope that we can with this little guy and quit wishing our lives away for the second coming of superman. it just ain't happening.
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      Gonna have to strongly disagree with you here. Here are the last 20 Super Bowls - only two of them IMO had QB that didn't play like Superman to get them there/win the game/both, and that was Peyton in 2015 and Ben in 2005. Even then they both had that ability, Peyton was just old and Ben young. That said, there were flashes in the pan like Foles in 2017 and (to a lesser degree) Flacco in 2012. But even counting that, it's 4/20. 20% odds aren't good enough and Bryce was absolutely drafted at #1 to be a guy that elevates an entire team and plays like Superman. If he can't do that then it's a failed pick, full stop. Being a poor man's Teddy doesn't cut it for a #1 overall and that's true for any team, not just Carolina.
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      the problem is if we're waiting for Cam v2, we're going to be waiting decades longer.  our best hope is that bryce is better than we all think he is and that canales is able to work some serious magic with him and the scheme to help him live up anywhere close to the potential we thought he had. he's a smart kid. we just have to be able to have a situation that allows him to use his smarts.  the truth with cam was that een he had to have a system tailored for his skillset coming into the league. the difference between him and luck (which was the debate in '09 when we thought luck was an option) was that with luck, he could be placed in any offense and it would work...hence the higher floor he had  than cam. cam, though, needed an offense that was built around him to reach his potential. he could have done alright in a more pro-style offense, but to reach his ceiling (which was seen by a lot of people as being higher than luck). i don't think having to have an offense tailored around what you can and can't do well is a problem for people who can develop around them...after they've truly identified what those can and can't items are. we didn't have that last year. i think we have that this year. we want a guy who can carry a team on his back, but those kind of guys are very rare. we don't need to spend our time trying  find that guy, because even when you have them there's no guarantee that they will be enough.  championships are won, quite often, by teams who learn to compensate for less than the greatest QB play. you have a great defense and can protect the ball while wearing out the other defense and you've got a chance.  we don't need Bryce to be superman (despite where we drafted him and what we paid to get him). we just need him to be able to run (manage) a good offense. 
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