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Y’all are overreacting


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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

and I will contend to this day, there is no player in the nfl that isnt a qb that you dont accept that offer for.  2 firsts and a second and anyone gets traded.   Ive watched football for far to long to know that a player can simply fall off a cliff at any moment.  That type of draft capital, if parlayed correctly, can set your team up for a long time

Let's be honest with ourselves though, if Scott makes that deal then he is the one making the picks and we probably end up with some absolute bums who don't make it in the league past their rookie contracts.

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

and I will contend to this day, there is no player in the nfl that isnt a qb that you dont accept that offer for.  2 firsts and a second and anyone gets traded.   Ive watched football for far to long to know that a player can simply fall off a cliff at any moment.  That type of draft capital, if parlayed correctly, can set your team up for a long time

Pretty much,  it’s the whole everything is for sale for the right price mantra.  You can’t turn that offer down if you were the Panthers.  The team getting absurd picks virtually always wins on those trades 

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31 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Let's be honest with ourselves though, if Scott makes that deal then he is the one making the picks and we probably end up with some absolute bums who don't make it in the league past their rookie contracts.

That's a different problem all together. We would still have 1 of those picks left this year because he was getting fired over the combined disaster he had already created.  The Burns deal was only 1 of the reasons he's gone.

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I mean, some of you were kinda right. You said that we weren't going to get a lot for Burns. Well we got a second and a fifth. So why act like the sky is falling over something you already figured?

You've been asking for a rebuild, and the organization to stop trying to put lipstick on a pig. Well, that's what's happening.

We've been asking them to fix the line since before Cam got hurt. Now that we're actually doing it, all you have is complaints. 

You said yourself that Bryce was going to get his shot this year whether we liked it or not. That's what's happening, so why act surprised?

You said that we can't fix everything overnight, but you're whining about fixing things incrementally, but fixing things for the long run. 

The plan is in place. We're fixing the O-line. There is no chance of competing with a bad one. We're rebuilding it from the inside out, which is exactly what we're trying to do. Being that we can't fix everything necessarily how we want it, it looks like we're going to roll with Chuba, Tremble and Sullivan, Mingo, etc., but remember that we still have more money and especially the draft. We'll likely be thoughtful when building what we can this year, especially in how it relates to protecting Bryce and providing him adequate weapons. Whatever isn't addressed this year will be addressed in the future.

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49 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Let's be honest with ourselves though, if Scott makes that deal then he is the one making the picks and we probably end up with some absolute bums who don't make it in the league past their rookie contracts.

That's a hard truth right there.

Ouch.

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1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Let's be honest with ourselves though, if Scott makes that deal then he is the one making the picks and we probably end up with some absolute bums who don't make it in the league past their rookie contracts.

I mean if he made that deal he's not making the picks.  Wasn't it this year and next year's draft for the 1sts?  So in a weird way, it kind of proves Scott right for not taking the deal.  He didn't survive long enough even with keeping Brian Burns on the roster.  If he dumped him for picks we certainly aren't doing any better last year.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Person is now saying the only person in the front office that wanted to do the trade was Samir.   We are so fuged as a franchise

we've been fuged since Tepper bought the team. We won't be unfuged until he either sells or truly let's go (don't kid yourselves into believing he's in the "background" now. He hired Dan so Dan could be his new puppet)

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