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Carolina Panthers @ Las Vegas Raiders Gameday Thread


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Just now, JawnyBlaze said:

Good drive even though it ended up in a punt. Being able to move the ball not only let the defense rest but also led to pinning the Raiders inside the five. Just better football all around, simply because of benching the trash QB

Even just a few first downs every drive gives the defense much needed rest. We were literally going 3 and out almost every possession with Bryce in there.

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Television people once again sucking up to Bryce. I’m not sure if they are afraid of hurting his feelings or what. They weren’t afraid of hurting Zac’s feelings. They weren’t afraid of hurting Darnold’s feelings. Why do they tip toe around Bryce like he’s some maltreated savant?

Bryce played like garbage and Dalton proved it with a single drive. 

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1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

Dalton has elevated the entire offense and coaching staff. And the problem is he hasn’t really elevated anyone, Bryce was just playing that bad. It’s insane how this team, all of the sudden, looks like the team from the end of 2022. 

When you have a first pick tied up in a trade with your #1, forcing him to start when you have Dalton there in 2023 was the dumbest fuging choice we could have made. We ruined our QB and gave the Bears the #1 pick at the same time.

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Just now, CPcavedweller said:

Television people once again sucking up to Bryce. I’m not sure if they are afraid of hurting his feelings or what. They weren’t afraid of hurting Zac’s feelings. They weren’t afraid of hurting Darnold’s feelings. Why do they tip toe around Bryce like he’s some maltreated savant?

Bryce played like garbage and Dalton proved it with a single drive. 

Im getting sick of them babying Bryce. Im hearing it from so many people its refreshing when i dont hear a babying take

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Just now, thunderraiden said:

When you have a first pick tied up in a trade with your #1, forcing him to start when you have Dalton there in 2023 was the dumbest fuging choice we could have made. We ruined our QB and gave the Bears the #1 pick at the same time.

We didn’t ruin Bryce. Bryce should have sat for three years before ever touching the field which means he was overdrafted by probably two rounds. 

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