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Carolina Panthers @ Las Vegas Raiders Gameday Thread


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14 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'm wait and see on Morgan but so far gotta give some credit this roster is not without talent.

we had talent the last 3 years man. Rhule fuged us to start as was shown with wilks taking Rhule's proclaimed talentless roster and getting right up to the playoffs window but got GOATed by the bucs with brady and evans abusing the poo out of henderson (who is was garbage). Add fitt trading CMC prior to Wilks getting his shot so it wasnt that bad as Rhule said.......

 

Then tepper forcing Bryce all year in 2023 made evaluation impossible. The team (OC/HC) all quit with the rest cause they saw Bryce wasnt it for the most of 2023. We got another glimpse into that to start the year in two blowouts. the narrative was talentless Panthers before today. like the Seattle game last year, we were not talentless on O.

A competent QB and HC changed the math. So morgan has a loooooong way to go as he was part of the Bryce debacle and the scouting under Fitt. and its not like we hit well under fitt and morgan as assistant GM in 2022 and 2023. his connection to the stench of Fitt from even the Seattle days makes me really cautious with him. he took a layup on johnson for jackson.

 

wish we fired Fitt and Rhule after 2021 and let wilks take over with baker, pj, and sam. be better off place today.

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1 minute ago, chbright said:

we had talent the last 3 years man. Rhule fuged us to start as was shown with wilks taking Rhule's proclaimed talentless roster and getting right up to the playoffs window but got GOATed by the bucs with brady and evans abusing the poo out of henderson (who is was garbage). Add fitt trading CMC prior to Wilks getting his shot so it wasnt that bad as Rhule said.......

 

Then tepper forcing Bryce all year in 2023 made evaluation impossible. The team (OC/HC) all quit with the rest cause they saw Bryce wasnt it for the most of 2023. We got another glimpse into that to start the year in two blowouts. the narrative was talentless Panthers before today. like the Seattle game last year, we were not talentless on O.

A competent QB and HC changed the math. So morgan has a loooooong way to go as he was part of the Bryce debacle and the scouting under Fitt. and its not like we hit well under fitt and morgan as assistant GM in 2022 and 2023. his connection to the stench of Fitt from even the Seattle days makes me really cautious with him. he took a layup on johnson for jackson.

 

wish we fired Fitt and Rhule after 2021 and let wilks take over with baker, pj, and sam. be better off place today.

I understand your frustration but it's best to try to not keep living in the past. What's done is done and who isn't here now are gone and moved on too. All that matters is that we get competitive football and build from there. Hopefully Tepper and his wife will fully stay out of decisions that's the biggest question and all that really matters going forward. Let your coach and GM do their jobs!

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