Stroud was salty panthers didn't draft him

[CPF4LIFE]

16 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Vegas had us at 7 wins

which is the minimum to make the playoffs in this division

[Manna]

because he got that dawg in him. the QB that went #1 doesn't. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

8 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

which is the minimum to make the playoffs in this division

And some years, win it. 

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Von Miller said the same thing 

If you took away the arrests stuff, I think a good case could be made for von being the better pick.....he's still here and making plays while Cam is playing dress up while smoking cigars on ........(checks mathz) the 83,982,057,195,602 podcast...

[Jackie Lee]

13 minutes ago, Manna said:

because he got that dawg in him. the QB that went #1 doesn't. 

i appreciate his negative motivation vs our gee golly what a nice day let's do our best out there!

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

For the record it wasn't 'crazy'. Evero confused him all game with his coverages.

[frankw]

32 minutes ago, Basbear said:

If you took away the arrests stuff, I think a good case could be made for von being the better pick.....he's still here and making plays while Cam is playing dress up while smoking cigars on ........(checks mathz) the 83,982,057,195,602 podcast...

Who is going to pay him to play QB knowing his arm is done? Most teams would tolerate just about any of his eccentricities if he still had the cannon. At the end of the day you can debate his value within the draft but you can't debate his value to us and the fact we've been flailing hopelessly for the last 5 years minimum. The cruel irony of it all is we had the first pick and a QB in our sights that had comparable arm strength ability to a young Cam and we passed on that to draft the next Doug Flutie because he was more marketable in their eyes. Personality wise BY is the anti-Cam and Stroud was more open to expressing himself and outwardly confident in his abilities like Cam was. At the end of the day if you want to be a serious championship contender and not a team that makes the playoffs but folds like a lawn chair you need a strong take charge kind of personality behind center.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

if lovie smith doesn't have that Hail Mary, CJ would be a panther.

Houston wanted Bryce over CJ. The plan was for Houston to trade to number 1 overall and take Bryce while the Panthers trade up to number 2 and take CJ. That went out the window when Houston backed out at the last second.

[frankw]

48 minutes ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

if lovie smith doesn't have that Hail Mary, CJ would be a panther.

Houston wanted Bryce over CJ. The plan was for Houston to trade to number 1 overall and take Bryce while the Panthers trade up to number 2 and take CJ. That went out the window when Houston backed out at the last second.

When it boils down to it none of us really know how highly the Texans valued Stroud. I understand why you think this was how it went down because it's what was leaked through the media but I would caution making assumptions about the Texans intentions and assuming they operate similarly to the Panthers ie absolutely zero gamesmanship and tunnel vision for certain prospects over others. There's a reason the Texans have been drafting fairly well as of recently and the Panthers have been..well.. the exact opposite. Whether it was all Fitterer or Tepper was meddling it doesn't matter we were painfully easy to read.

[rayzor]

2 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Exactly.  We were widely regarded as a playoff ready team that just needed a QB.  Bryce Young dragged the team down, period.  

[CPF4LIFE]

Nobody really knows what the texans were gonna do or who they wanted. To assume that they were all in on bryce originally but then turnaround and brush off rumors that the whole panther coaching staff wanted Stroud and were overruled by ownership just sounds hypocritical. 

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

When it boils down to it none of us really know how highly the Texans valued Stroud. I understand why you think this was how it went down because it's what was leaked through the media but I would caution making assumptions about the Texans intentions and assuming they operate similarly to the Panthers ie absolutely zero gamesmanship and tunnel vision for certain prospects over others. There's a reason the Texans have been drafting fairly well as of recently and the Panthers have been..well.. the exact opposite. Whether it was all Fitterer or Tepper was meddling it doesn't matter we were painfully easy to read.

believed it was Tepper who spilled everything in a press conference regarding the potential 3 way trade with Houston and Chicago. IF Houston stayed or traded up to One, the Panthers were going to take whoever was available between the two. This scenario would have been better since trading up to Two wouldn't have required selling the entire farm and DJ Moore even if we still ended up with Bryce at Two.

But anyways, "hindsight is 50/50" - Cam Newton

[Waldo]

The trade happened March 10th, a couple days after the combine where Young did little but show up with a lot of water weight. Even with scouting that cuts out all the interviews and private workouts or pro-days that come right after that. The Bears ended up with a good WR and the #1 pick while the Texans got a franchise QB. If the Texans wanted Young they could have jumped a spot so it smells like they knew who the Panthers' target was. They literally traded up to #3 after picking at #2. BS they wouldn't have gotten Young if they wanted him, the Bears could have traded to 2 and then down again for another haul. All the three way trade did was let Houston know what the other 2 where doing which made them think sitting tight the best option. 

The rest is normal draft smokescreen. They all lie so much that when they do tell the truth it hard to believe. Hell every one was in consensus over Bryce on the Panthers and then sure as hell was not in a matter of months.  

[CamWhoaaCam]