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Official Panthers at Saints Game Day Thread

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frankw Grand Master

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1 minute ago, Krovvy said:

Also, I've never said this, but I might as well now.

I feel like the shoulder injury from college did more damage to Bryce than he let on.

Not throwing at the combine should have taken him off our board. If he played anywhere other than Alabama it would have. Truth.

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11 minutes ago, t96 said:

Not coping, read my posts about Bryce, he’s terrible. My point is the root issue isn’t Bryce, it’s Tepper and his decision making in hiring, etc. Morgan and Canales are fuging terrible too and simply switching QBs will not solve anything. We’ll have 1st overall pick next year and whatever QB we take will be a bust if the decision is made by Tepper/his hires. People here think Canales/Morgan will succeed once they get rid of Bryce are the ones coping. The Panthers will never see success with Tepper and those 2 running things.

Respectfully, he's the worst player on any field.

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Just now, MrBubba said:

Lotta people should be preparing their apologies to Frank Reich

This is the offense that Tepper wants Bryce to run, which is dink and  dunk like Drew Brees. The problem is there is no threat of the down field deep throw.

they need to be able to air it out to keep the defense honest.

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2 minutes ago, strato said:

I disagree with the concept of waiting for an elite QB. You go with what you have, and do the best with it. That actually works for people if they are good at their jobs. 
 

edit: who was Your elite QB the last time we had a shot at one? That poo worked so good the last time we went that route.

The last time we had a chance at an Elite QB was Cam and we took him, I'd say it worked out well.

We could have taken Stroud, but even he wasn't expected to be that type of guy, or else the Bears would have kept the pick and took him themselves.

Show me a team that has had long term sustained success with a non elite QB prospect or getting lucky and hitting on a mid round QB (like a Russell Wilson with Seattle)?

It doesn't happen, you can't win in the NFL without a QB and you don't get a QB unless you have a high draft pick with elite options, or just flat out luck into a situation.  Trying to force a square peg into a round hole to get your QB solution NEVER works in this league.

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