Tepper and Canales' Monday morning meeting

[PleaseCutStewart]

[HaricotVert]

24 minutes ago, CRA said:

what's grasping? 

acknowledging that we know for a fact all NFL owners are in fact not doing that?  They don't.  And we found out about these meetings via a vet NFL coach that stumbled into this nightmare for a couple months. 

actual owners for the most part aren't doing that....because they don't know diddly squat about actual football, winning games, scheming, playcalling, etc.  So why waste a coaches time every week.  Most owners are big picture dudes/gals.  Not inserting themselves into the day to day/weekly aspect of a football team playing football.   As has been said for a LONG time.  Tepper should hire someone to run the football team and stay out of it.   

the real monkey is Tepper.  The dude who doesn't know more about the actual football aspect of the Panthers than any random huddler yet wants to be part-time GM/HC.  

 

 

Whats grasping?

 

Youre looking for something concrete to pin the teams ineptitude on.  Trying to pin it on a meeting between the owner and the coach is grasping.

Unless you're trying to tell me that David is prescribing the entirety of the football operations in that meeting Im simply saying there is more than enough blame to go around and making too much out of this meeting is looking for a simple fix to a Gordian knot of a problem.

[CRA]

Just now, HaricotVert said:

Whats grasping?

 

Youre looking for something concrete to pin the teams ineptitude on.  Trying to pin it on a meeting between the owner and the coach is grasping.

Unless you're trying to tell me that David is prescribing the entirety of the football operations in that meeting Im simply saying there is more than enough blame to go around and making too much out of this meeting is looking for a simple fix to a Gordian knot of a problem.

I'm not pinning anything singularly on the fact he has Monday meetings with his coaches....but the Monday meetings are indeed PART of the puzzle of explaining what makes Tepper such a very bad owner.   He has been and remains too involved in the actual football component of what he owns.... and that is basically a consensus nationally and locally in regards to the Panthers.   

[thennek]

Tepper meeting the HC each Monday is a symptom of the problem of him being overall involved in football decisions.  He is the reason why the Panthers are the worst team in the NFL and have been terrible ever since he bought the team.  The Weekly Meetings are a 'clue' as to what is really going on inside the building.  

[HaricotVert]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I'm not pinning anything singularly on the fact he has Monday meetings with his coaches....but the Monday meetings are indeed PART of the puzzle of explaining what makes Tepper such a very bad owner.   He has been and remains too involved in the actual football component of what he owns.... and that is basically a consensus nationally and locally in regards to the Panthers.   

I get that

I just cant help but think thats low hanging fruit and that our issues run a whole lot deeper than simply an owner who doesnt behave like a Rooney/Kroenke/Craft/Hunt

[HaricotVert]

cant edit Kraft over Craft

[CRA]

20 minutes ago, HaricotVert said:

I get that

I just cant help but think thats low hanging fruit and that our issues run a whole lot deeper than simply an owner who doesnt behave like a Rooney/Kroenke/Craft/Hunt

I mean, it's Monday morning after another beatdown.  I can either make a dumb post about today's predictable bad meeting Canales is in store for....or talk in-depth about the game from Sunday (which I got little interest in doing). 

[Johnstonny]

Frank Reich is prolly chuckling ...

[mc52beast]

8 hours ago, Waldo said:

The fact they are still having monday morning meetings is what DC deserves for signing up for this clown show.

My only question is who gets fired first because someone in that dumpster will be scapegoated soon.

That will probably be Evero. He was expected to take a D that lost Burns, Luvu and other guys and turn it into something great.

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

That will probably be Evero. He was expected to take a D that lost Burns, Luvu and other guys and turn it into something great.

If Evero is fired will it be Canales that does it or will it be Morgan? Who am I kidding, it will be Tepper. 

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

That will probably be Evero. He was expected to take a D that lost Burns, Luvu and other guys and turn it into something great.

Maybe. Luvu didn't want to come back and Burns was replaced has 4 sacks halfway into the year at that price. The D guys since he showed up have been unimpressive for the most part. His guys the last 2 years also hasn't been stellar. 

It does seem like the odd guy out but at this point I'm wondering if Dave is starting to not mind getting the boot either. It can't be a fun job on pretty much any level. There is also Caldwell as an easy target. I don't even know who would run the D, DC is having issues with the HC and OC duties might keep him around until black Friday. 

[Shocker]

If Tepper is actually holding these meetings we are definitely fugged for the next decade

[carpanfan96]

8 hours ago, HaricotVert said:

Whats grasping?

 

Youre looking for something concrete to pin the teams ineptitude on.  Trying to pin it on a meeting between the owner and the coach is grasping.

Unless you're trying to tell me that David is prescribing the entirety of the football operations in that meeting Im simply saying there is more than enough blame to go around and making too much out of this meeting is looking for a simple fix to a Gordian knot of a problem.

He’s not grasping at all, there’s solid sources from inside that building that Tepper was pushing play calls and wanting plays added for the following week. 
 

and I do mean solid sources, it’s not BS. 
 

Tepper is just a god awful owner and till he steps back and lets the football people make the decisions solely without him or his wife having input… the team will continue to be god awful. Pretty simple actually. 

[toldozer]

The worst thing that can happen is tepper interject his wishes for our number one pick next draft and get it right.  I don't think he'll ever stop regardless but if he moves the needle from 0-100 to 1 for 101 he'll for sure dig in deeper.