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Canales still not sold on Bryce?

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3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Shouldn't have beat the Giants, but 3 or 4 turnovers and a missed field goal helped get him over the finish line lol. 

Bryce Young needs to send Daniel Jones a fruit basket or something at least. That man singlehandedly improved his W-L record.

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Canales and Morgan probably know they want to go another direction, but Tepper has to be shown without a doubt that we need to cut our losses with bryce.

Considering the cost involved, he'd want to make absolutely sure that there is nothing that can be done to make him worth the initial investment and that he is irredeemable to the point that we need to spend draft capital again to get another QB.

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A lot of this is gamesmanship. Of course Canales is going to keep his opponent guessing, even though it may not matter that much.

The Dalton comment tells me there's an open question on whether he's worth re-signing. Frankly, the best role he can serve given his age is to play within himself and not commit major mistakes. In other words, keep the seat warm until we eventually find a better guy. Even in that Raiders game, he got really lucky with some passes not being picked. Then his play was hurting us to the point in which Canales didn't immediately throw him back in last Sunday. 

For all we know, Canales wants to see if BY could at least be good enough that we don't need Dalton back as a backup anymore. Then bring in his own guy.

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I don't really see the downside of playing Bryce. (and yes I have heard the draft compensation argument and tbh I don't think he has much trade value anyway)

Just play him and see what we've got

My theory on why Canales won't announce him at the starter is two fold: a.) he doesn't want Bryce to feel the pressure of having to be the franchise savior b.) he's showing the team no one is above evaluation 

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5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Swinging and missing on another QB will keep us in the cellar for years.  I think 2 of these QBs could be good but they have question marks.  All QBs are risks but Sanders and Ward are not #1 picks in most drafts.  Just my opinion 

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5 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

A lot of this is gamesmanship. Of course Canales is going to keep his opponent guessing, even though it may not matter that much.

The Dalton comment tells me there's an open question on whether he's worth re-signing. Frankly, the best role he can serve given his age is to play within himself and not commit major mistakes. In other words, keep the seat warm until we eventually find a better guy. Even in that Raiders game, he got really lucky with some passes not being picked. Then his play was hurting us to the point in which Canales didn't immediately throw him back in last Sunday. 

For all we know, Canales wants to see if BY could at least be good enough that we don't need Dalton back as a backup anymore. Then bring in his own guy.

I'm leaning more to your observations. To be honest they are down to seeing if either one of them can at least be a backup next season. What they do for a starter is I would like to know. 

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The Chiefs will be the ultimate test.  If Bryce can beat the Chiefs, then he should get the nod going forward.  What I don't wan to happen is they put Dalton back in to be the whipping boy so Bryce doesn't have his new found confidence shattered.  It's not fair to Dalton that Bryce gets to play the doormats and when we face the SB champions, Andy gets to be the sacrificial lamb.

We need to see Bryce versus a legit team, moreover, a legit defense. 

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John Ellis on the pod made a point that Canales has nothing to gain by fully backing Bryce. He’s not his guy and he’s just treating him like an adult QB in the NFL. Has to earn it week in and week out. Bryce isn’t exactly setting the world aflame either so I get it. Canales has done a good job balancing the situation this year because he’s been pretty straightforward about it. 

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24 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The Chiefs will be the ultimate test.  If Bryce can beat the Chiefs, then he should get the nod going forward.  What I don't wan to happen is they put Dalton back in to be the whipping boy so Bryce doesn't have his new found confidence shattered.  It's not fair to Dalton that Bryce gets to play the doormats and when we face the SB champions, Andy gets to be the sacrificial lamb.

We need to see Bryce versus a legit team, moreover, a legit defense. 

Umm Andy played the worst team in the league. And hasn’t played that well since. 

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1 hour ago, Icege said:

He's been fairly consistent about not naming the starter until late to keep a competitive advantage + evaluate practice reps.

Kind of weird that folks are upset about Canales making Bryce earn starts after all of the butthurt over him being "handed" the job his rookie season.

Everybody isn’t upset. It is about time young was treated fairly like any other player instead of being given everything. 
 

But there is no way he can beat out Dalton if it is fair. 

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36 minutes ago, SOJA said:

I don't really see the downside of playing Bryce. (and yes I have heard the draft compensation argument and tbh I don't think he has much trade value anyway)

Just play him and see what we've got

My theory on why Canales won't announce him at the starter is two fold: a.) he doesn't want Bryce to feel the pressure of having to be the franchise savior b.) he's showing the team no one is above evaluation 

As a fan I agree. If I'm Dave Canales I saw Frank Reich get fired mid season last year. I'm probably wanting to go the route that I feel will make the team lost competitive any given Sunday.

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