Carolina may not "be sold" on young (per athletic)

[strato]

12 minutes ago, frankw said:

 

Morgan was not his glorified secretary he was the assistant GM. He also kept the draft scouts basically entirely intact. If he were steadfast against some of the things Fitterer was doing in relation to the draft in particular he would have cleaned house from the go.

If you want to take the glass half full perspective on it that's perfectly fine but let's not bs one another on this if one of our rivals fired their worst GM in franchise history just to turn around and replace him with his right hand man you'd be cracking jokes. The reason Morgan gets the benefit of the doubt is former Panther status. That's fine but it doesn't change what he was part of these last few years. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that.

I'm not one to judge when I don't know. To me, until someone comes up with the play by play of each move Fitterer made I am going to withhold attaching his (Morgan's) judgement to Fitterer's decisions.

Absent 100% confirmation that Morgan had the same evaluations, we only can even assume he agreed. Because the boss made the decision. We don't know if the agreement was enthusiastic, reluctant, whatever. 

I am judging him on what he has done as GM. Still has a lot left to do before I would speak a judgement type of opinion on the quality of his work. Grade = Incomplete.

Edited November 16, 2024 by strato

[frankw]

12 minutes ago, strato said:

I am judging him on what he has done as GM. Still has a lot left to do before I would speak a judgement type of opinion on the quality of his work. Grade = Incomplete.

That's perfectly fine. I agree.

Also to preface all this I want to be clear that I want him to succeed.

That doesn't mean that there has to be any going out of my way to tell myself he did or didn't like this or that move when he worked with Fitterer though. The only people that know worked with them. And no one is going to talk anytime soon.

All that matters is what Dan does in the upcoming draft. He needs to nail it. No pressure.

[CPF4LIFE]

Been saying for the longest this staff would be dumb to hang their future on Young and that's what it comes down too. 

It just isn't smart unless they are forced too.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

Kudos to the Athletic. Finally a media outlet that does its research thoroughly and has the courage to say what no one else will. 
 

And they say journalism is dead…

[Mage]

I mean... is there any doubt about this? 

The way Canales talks about Bryce Young is not the way a HC talks about a QB they really like as a player.  Canales is 100% out on Bryce barring an unforeseen turnaround.

[csx]

Why would anyone think they are?

[kungfoodude]

7 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

Will be barring a trade. What slot is your prediction?

5 to 10. 

It's not plausible that we lose out.

[NAS]

I think this means there will be competition in the QB room next year with Young in the mix.  He has improved but not to the degree that he should be crowned as the undisputed franchise QB.  Let him continue to prove he can be that against legitimate competition such as Fields or by drafting another QB

[BrisbanePanther]

I think they should just end the drama and tell him he's playing for his next team. Full stop. This week to week "do they, don't they", "will they, won't they" stuff is crazy. 

Maybe Shanahan will trade one of their 3rds for him rather than pay Purdy the big dollars--he's certainly on the list of coaches I think would say, "They're just not using him right". Plus Lynch already knows the Panthers' price list.

Bryce can head back home to California and Carolina can continue its neverending quest to replace Cam.

[AceBoogie]

Fields is the play and it’s been the play since we drafted Horn over him. Sign him. 

[Shotgun]

A qb room with Fields and Young would be terrible. Similar to this year’s sh*t QB room.

 

[*FreeFua*]

13 hours ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Justin Fields is the exact opposite of what Canales is looking for, getting the ball out quickly to “playmakers”. However, if said playmakers are non-existent, then a wingback offense circa 1920s may be his best option 

Canales wants to run the ball and take deep shots

Fields is a really damn good fit for what Dave wants to do

a backfield of Fields, Chuba and Brooks behind this OL combined with Fields deep ball… would be fun to watch 

[Joe Bear]

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

5 to 10. 

It's not plausible that we lose out.

If Young’s as bad as everybody says he is then yeah, it is plausible. 

[*FreeFua*]

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

5 to 10. 

It's not plausible that we lose out.

I think we end up closer to 10

We very well could end up splitting with the Bucs due to their injuries, beating the Cowboys and Arizona seems to really struggle when travelling all the way to Charlotte. Atlanta could end up resting all their starters the last week too

Even 2 more wins combined with all the bad teams this year puts us way back. Some of those bad teams do still play each other but unless we lose out (I doubt that happens) we’re going to be closer to 10