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Legette is killing us


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1 hour ago, Call Me James said:

And all those things work well when you have a better QB. The reason you drafted Legette is because Bryce was giving a lot more 50/50 balls and Legette was better at winning those balls and YAC potential. 

Just different guys. 

Not sure with this obsession on the huddle that the grass is always greener. Strange take considering Legette isn't the reason why we lost. 

Yeah, people are on here whining about Ladd and Cooper Dejean over the picks we took this year. It is pretty evident, but some things are taboo to talk about anymore. 

Legette is playing very well having played this year with two QBs, basically three as Bryce is seemingly a different QB now. Ladd is playing with a vested veteran QB and that is the reason he is producing more. Any moron can see that, but doesn't want to discuss the obvious.

As far as Brooks not looking special, this is literally the second game he has played in as a rookie. His first catch he broke tackles and the big run he had he broke tackles, but he doesn't jump off the screen/didn't do anything. Bucky was the best RB yesterday, but won't discuss that our run defense is fooking last in the NFL. I wish sometimes you all would step up and kill these stupid threads before they get 5-7 pages deep! These arguments are so weak and it is just a bunch of hindsight negativity when you can see the team is trending upward. 

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I swear, this guy is a ROOKIE and being asked to play a major role. Stop the Stoopid. 

 

After another full off-season IN WHICH YOU HOPE HES HEALTHLY........ if he's still having hand catching problems, THEN start up the roast. 

Give him time to adjust.

You should never judge rookies unless they are ALL-PRO or cut. WAIT. 

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5 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

Honestly, wasn’t real impressed with Brooks yesterday at the game. Bucky looked way better, unfortunately. I thought Brooks was quicker and more elusive and would be a compliment to Chuba but he looked more like a Chuba clone. Maybe he’s rusty but he was not elusive at all. One run at David and he didn’t have any wiggle just tried to run through him and well, didn’t.

We needed Legette, so I hope he improves but man, unless Brooks is really rusty, he’s going to be our big regret, especially with Frazier available to fill our C opening with a potential pro bowler.

Bucky looked better because our defense couldn't stop him 

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1 hour ago, NorthTryon said:

Yeah, people are on here whining about Ladd and Cooper Dejean over the picks we took this year. It is pretty evident, but some things are taboo to talk about anymore. 

Legette is playing very well having played this year with two QBs, basically three as Bryce is seemingly a different QB now. Ladd is playing with a vested veteran QB and that is the reason he is producing more. Any moron can see that, but doesn't want to discuss the obvious.

As far as Brooks not looking special, this is literally the second game he has played in as a rookie. His first catch he broke tackles and the big run he had he broke tackles, but he doesn't jump off the screen/didn't do anything. Bucky was the best RB yesterday, but won't discuss that our run defense is fooking last in the NFL. I wish sometimes you all would step up and kill these stupid threads before they get 5-7 pages deep! These arguments are so weak and it is just a bunch of hindsight negativity when you can see the team is trending upward. 

Tell it brother 

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He needs to work on hands catching, otherwise he's what I'd expect from a rookie with a lot of upside. Good routes. Good speed. But I just can't understand why he makes routine catches look so difficult. Throw one up for him to high point, and all of a sudden he starts leaping, twisting and contorting his body like you just tossed a cat in the air.

Honestly, I think it's a confidence thing. Some more plays, some more TDs and the game will slow down a bit for him and he won't have to try so hard.

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24 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

i think we should instantly cut all of our draft picks, right after training camp, so we never have any more rookies on our team. that’s the clear answer.

The sad truth is I believe there are some people on this board who would be cool with that just to have one more thing to bitch about

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10 hours ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

I understand it was one game, doesn’t change the fact it was a bad pick. 

That's a matter of opinion and that won't be determined for a couple years from now. If the guy turned out to be amazing in the next couple years would it be a bad pick then? Not saying he will but whether or not it was a bad pick is still up in the air. Initially it looks like it could be with other needs but if the guy turned out to be a world beater then I guess it wouldn't be. Easy to second guess what others do but if we were so damn great, we would be getting paid to make decisions like this for an NFL team already and not discussing it on a message board where everyone thinks they are an expert.

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3 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

That's a matter of opinion and that won't be determined for a couple years from now. If the guy turned out to be amazing in the next couple years would it be a bad pick then? Not saying he will but whether or not it was a bad pick is still up in the air. Initially it looks like it could be with other needs but if the guy turned out to be a world beater then I guess it wouldn't be. Easy to second guess what others do but if we were so damn great, we would be getting paid to make decisions like this for an NFL team already and not discussing it on a message board where everyone thinks they are an expert.

But is it a conflict of interests when you invest in a 2nd round RB but sign your starting RB to an expensive extension? That’s a luxury pick that shouldn’t have been made imo. 

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I like how he's coming along considering how much has been asked of him. In an ideal world he's a deep ball and red zone guy to keep defenses honest. Hard to stick to that when the passing game has struggled and our WR1 is old, surehanded as he may be. When the reciever room fills out XL will have more opportunities to do what he does best. 

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