Bryce May Not Be the Answer

[NAS]

8 minutes ago, frankw said:

Indeed. It's very simple. If the draft plays out where the Panthers are up next and one of the top QB's are available Dan Morgan and Dave Canales cannot afford to say no thanks. It does not matter how Bryce Young plays over the next 3 games or what he did over the last few. The broader body of work is there for anyone to see.

You assume they will evaluate them as being franchise worthy QBs just because they’re top of their class.  They won’t draft one just to compete with Bryce. If they do draft in first round then Bryce will be traded.  

[kungfoodude]

I don't know if Bryce Young is the answer, I don't know that Stroud is a potentially elite QB but I know that Anthony Richardson is fuging TERRIBLE.

[Panthera onca]

BY is trash. Today showed who he is after a few weeks of elevating his play from totally awful to below league average. Cut bait now and move on.

[frankw]

8 minutes ago, NAS said:

You assume they will evaluate them as being franchise worthy QBs just because they’re top of their class.  They won’t draft one just to compete with Bryce. If they do draft in first round then Bryce will be traded.  

I'm not assuming any of those things. What I am assuming is that Dan and Dave both have the basic awareness to know they cannot just stroll into next season at QB the same way they did this year if they value their jobs.

[NAS]

8 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'm not assuming any of those things. What I am assuming is that Dan and Dave both have the basic awareness to know they cannot just stroll into next season at QB the same way they did this year if they value their jobs.

I guess time will tell if your assumption is right or will you declare them incompetent if they don’t see it your way

[45catfan]

56 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't either because I don't think he'll be there.

There are only two QBs worthy of a top 10 pick with the top two needy teams conveniently sitting at #1 and #2 in the draft order--Giants and Raiders.

It ain't happening. Those teams are tanking and we will probably squeeze out at least one more win.  We also hold the tie breaker over both of those two teams if somehow we end up with the same record.  The Giants have a fairly tough last 3 games.  The Raiders would have a couple of winnable ones, but I think they still tank it.

[LinvilleGorge]

16 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

There are only two QBs worthy of a top 10 pick with the top two needy teams conveniently sitting at #1 and #2 in the draft order--Giants and Raiders.

It ain't happening. Those teams are tanking and we will probably squeeze out at least one more win.  We also hold the tie breaker over both of those two teams if somehow we end up with the same record.  The Giants have a fairly tough last 3 games.  The Raiders would have a couple of winnable ones, but I think they still tank it.

Agreed 

[TD alt]

I mean, I don't remember too many people saying "Bryce is the answer," with their chest. He's still shaky, and in fact no one can say with surety that either Dave Canales, Dan Morgan or David Tepper are sold on Young. Hell, who here has said they're sold on him?

We need to bring in legit competition for him. The only question is how high that draft pick is going to be. Everything is on the table.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I mean, I don't remember too many people saying "Bryce is the answer," with their chest.

I could post last weeks thread if you like,  lots of talk of "brilliant" play and lots of talk of talk 5 qb

[Bear Hands]

I still think there's a high likelihood Bryce is starting week 1 next year, even if his next few games have similar downs.  

But, this is the the type of draft where we absolutely should consider a low-risk pick at QB (after R1) to see how he stacks up.  He could be a pressure backup to Bryce instead of a vet.  And if Bryce implodes, you transition to that rookie, see if he's worth anything, and if not, onto a high drafted QB in 2026.  

 

[KillerKat]

Never thought he would definitely be.

[CPantherKing]

Bryce Young will never be a franchise QB. At best he's on the level of Ryan Fitzpatrick. Accept it and move on. Also, stop wasting 1st round picks on QBs. That's a luxury pick.

[frankw]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

I guess time will tell if your assumption is right or will you declare them incompetent if they don’t see it your way

I would not use the word incompetent. If they make no significant effort to revamp the QB room I would consider it negligence. And it's their jobs on the line not ours.

[45catfan]

15 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I still think there's a high likelihood Bryce is starting week 1 next year, even if his next few games have similar downs.  

But, this is the the type of draft where we absolutely should consider a low-risk pick at QB (after R1) to see how he stacks up.  He could be a pressure backup to Bryce instead of a vet.  And if Bryce implodes, you transition to that rookie, see if he's worth anything, and if not, onto a high drafted QB in 2026.  

 

I am really liking McCord on day 3.  How about you?  Rouke, Leonard and Howard would be okay late flier picks too.  Again, McCord is my favorite of the bunch though.