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1 hour ago, theinstrumental said:

Exactly. There’s no magic in taking the highest-rated guy who falls because his position isn’t the most valuable. If you want the Hurney pick this year, just grab the LSU tackle and put him at center. Instant All-Pro!

Yet so many fail drafting in the first round.  

Not as easy as it seems.  Although,  for me, it's pretty easy to see who'll bust in the top 10. 

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12 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Isn't the first pick the easiest?  He chose positions, as a general rule, that were generally successful as rookies because the position did not take time to master--RBs, LBs, etc.  I was never a fan--let's not forget, he tried to trade up with the Rams to get the 33rd pick so he could take Clausen.  And he took Clausen after 2 teams, KC and Minn, who were desperate for a QB passed on Clausen--in rounds one and then again in round 2.  That same draft, he moved up to get Armanti Edwards....He traded away first round picks to get Otah and Everette Brown.  First round magic? 

We’ve been spoiled. Plenty of teams have years of failure in the first round.

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14 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Isn't the first pick the easiest?  He chose positions, as a general rule, that were generally successful as rookies because the position did not take time to master--RBs, LBs, etc.  I was never a fan--let's not forget, he tried to trade up with the Rams to get the 33rd pick so he could take Clausen.  And he took Clausen after 2 teams, KC and Minn, who were desperate for a QB passed on Clausen--in rounds one and then again in round 2.  That same draft, he moved up to get Armanti Edwards....He traded away first round picks to get Otah and Everette Brown.  First round magic? 

Linebackers don't require time to master their position?

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23 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Isn't the first pick the easiest?  He chose positions, as a general rule, that were generally successful as rookies because the position did not take time to master--RBs, LBs, etc.  I was never a fan--let's not forget, he tried to trade up with the Rams to get the 33rd pick so he could take Clausen.  And he took Clausen after 2 teams, KC and Minn, who were desperate for a QB passed on Clausen--in rounds one and then again in round 2.  That same draft, he moved up to get Armanti Edwards....He traded away first round picks to get Otah and Everette Brown.  First round magic? 

Looking at the Panthers since he left, no, apparently first round picks are very difficult.

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Still hating on Hurney, and pushing the myth that he couldn't find talent outside the 1st round that had legs to start in the league? If the high standard of success is playoffs and championship games as a starter, you wouldn't be able to argue that he couldn't find talent in the draft.

The only round he missed at finding talent that could start in the league was the 4th round.

13 1st. 6 2nd. 8 3rd. 4 5th. 4 6th. 3 7th.

Hurney was GM of 14 drafts for the Panthers. He also had involvement as part of a GM by committee under Seifert that included Mike Rucker, Deon Grant, Dan Morgan, Kris Jenkins and Steve Smith, which are not reflected in the top numbers.

Making a claim without defining a standard to debate leads to this myth.

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On 2/18/2025 at 8:16 AM, Pejorative Miscreant said:

I have no ill will towards him but a broken clock is more accurate than Hurney. He could nail a first round pick but it was downhill after that until the following April. 

Compare his full drafts to Rhule/shitterer. Im not saying he was good, I'm just saying it can always be worse.

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