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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Defensive Needs:  DE, NT depth, CB, S, Edge, LB.

Offensive Needs:  WR, TE, RT, RB

 

FS, LB depth, and NT depth (Crumedy? Draft pick?) left to go for the defense.

I expect Dan Chisena (for ST primarily) and could see the team kicking the tires on Tyler Lockett.

Sets the team up nicely leading into the draft...... 

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I missed Tershawn Wharton.  Just stumbled over it. Here is how I see the DE Milton Williams failed deal ($26m per year).

The Panthers then sign NT Bobby Brown for $7m and DE Wharton for $18m.  In other words, the Panthers get 2 solid players for $25m-- $1m less than the Milton contract.

WHAT PANTHERS GOT FOR $25m (combined):

  • DE Tershawn Wharton:  7 sacks, 68.3 pass rush grade.  44.3 run defense grade.
  • NT Bobby Brown: 0 sacks, 67.7 run defense grade. Overall PFF rating: 63.3

WHAT PATRIOTS GOT FOR $26m:

  •  Milton Williams:  6 sacks, 90.0 pass rush grade.  43.1 run defense grade.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Icege said:

FS, LB depth, and NT depth (Crumedy? Draft pick?) left to go for the defense.

I expect Dan Chisena (for ST primarily) and could see the team kicking the tires on Tyler Lockett.

Sets the team up nicely leading into the draft...... 

Lockett is all but guaranteed to go to Vegas

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7 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Kupp when he's cut for me 

Why?

Don't get me wrong, I've always been a Kupp fan, but he'll turn 32 before training camp, hasn't been able to stay healthy, and plays the same role that Thielen already plays for us and who already has a rapport with Bryce.

Because of that, he doesn't really add anything new to the team unless we were planning on trading/cutting Thielen.  

But since neither would be long term solutions at the position anyways, I'd rather just stick it out with Thielen for his last year under contract given Bryce's comfort level with him already.  This is a make or break year for Bryce, I think that comfort level with someone who hasn't had the injury issues that Kupp has had is better for us this year than Kupp would be as a replacement for him.

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